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Old 01-30-2018, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Yes, it is disgusting. Pedophilia is different. It is an aberration to want to have sexual activity with children who are not equipped for it, physically or psychologically. What I haven't discovered, having just now heard of this guy, is was he active in having sex with children or was it about viewing kiddy p0rn? Has he actually been accused of sex with prepubescent children? Or was the pornography his outlet for the urges?
He certainly falls into a group that would not survive in prison very long. Perhaps he realized that?
Now, what about Woody Allen and Roman Polanski?
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Old 01-30-2018, 09:03 PM
 
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Yes, it is disgusting. Pedophilia is different. It is an aberration to want to have sexual activity with children who are not equipped for it, physically or psychologically. What I haven't discovered, having just now heard of this guy, is was he active in having sex with children or was it about viewing kiddy p0rn? Has he actually been accused of sex with prepubescent children? Or was the pornography his outlet for the urges?
He certainly falls into a group that would not survive in prison very long. Perhaps he realized that?
Now, what about Woody Allen and Roman Polanski?

He apparently took trips out of the country visiting places where child prostitution is going on. Also had videos of children being raped.

I love how some people think this is treatable like depression or drug addiction...sigh.

He wasn't wired right, this wasn't fixable.
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Old 01-30-2018, 09:14 PM
 
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He had videos of children being raped, not quite the same as someone being depressed or bipolar disorder.

You actually insulted people who suffer from those issues.
It's all mental illness. And bipolar disorder certainly can make you act violently. You're not in your right mind with any mental illness.

I've read a few scholarly articles about it that have led me to believe that people aren't born that way, with a propensity to find children attractive. They were likely abused when they were young. I just think it's possible it could be treated.
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Old 01-30-2018, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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He apparently took trips out of the country visiting places where child prostitution is going on. .
Thailand?
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Old 01-30-2018, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It's all mental illness. And bipolar disorder certainly can make you act violently. You're not in your right mind with any mental illness.

I've read a few scholarly articles about it that have led me to believe that people aren't born that way, with a propensity to find children attractive. They were likely abused when they were young. I just think it's possible it could be treated.
Many people have been sexually abused as children but did not grow up to become abusers themselves. So it's not a very solid explanation to say that being abused as a child causes pedophilia. I don't have all the answers but I do think a person is capable of controlling their urges, if they really want to.
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Old 01-30-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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It's all mental illness. And bipolar disorder certainly can make you act violently. You're not in your right mind with any mental illness.

I've read a few scholarly articles about it that have led me to believe that people aren't born that way, with a propensity to find children attractive. They were likely abused when they were young. I just think it's possible it could be treated.
Well stealing is stealing.

However there is a huge difference between stealing a lipstick from CVS, and doing a strong army robbery where people get hurt or killed.

Sorry, this stuff is in a much different league.
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Old 01-30-2018, 10:36 PM
 
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He wasn't prosecuted for his feelings, he was prosecuted for his illegal acts. It is a crime to possess child pornography. It's a crime to download it, have it, store it, share it. It wasn't an accidental thing. His goose was cooked and he well knew it.

This wasn't merely a 4 to 7 yr prison sentence, it was the rest of his life ruined by what he did (not to mention participating in the revictimization of hundreds or thousands of children). After prison, assuming he survived, he'd be on 20 years supervised probation, a registered sex offender, any monies he had would go to pay restitution, he would be a pariah forevermore, unemployed, and it never would have ended.

In some ways possessing child porn is worse than committing murder.

He heaped upon himself a ton of Karma, culminating in taking his own life. Those who believe in Karma and a soul's journey realize he's going to have to work to balance this Karma, possibly through many lifetimes.
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Old 01-30-2018, 10:42 PM
 
Location: West Knoxville, TN
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Rot in hell, sicko. Iím literally floored by some reactions (not necc on this thread) acting like this is some tragedy.

50,000 kiddie porn images, Iíve read they were prepubescent and even of babies being violated?

Tough ****. Should used pills though, why ppl hang themselves I donít get either.

I have no kids but those who do, like I said, babies and toddlers. What if that were your child?
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Old 01-31-2018, 05:21 AM
 
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Many people have been sexually abused as children but did not grow up to become abusers themselves. So it's not a very solid explanation to say that being abused as a child causes pedophilia. I don't have all the answers but I do think a person is capable of controlling their urges, if they really want to.
Of course many people come out of absusive situations not being abusers. But there must be some explanation as to how someone got to this point, and if we knew, we could treat them when they are younger. Maybe. Or maybe it really is innate, and all we can do is keep people who have those feelings away from children. Idk. It was still his choice to download the images, but could counseling have prevented him (and others) from spiraling that far down that hole? That's why I posted that article about that facility in Germany.
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Old 01-31-2018, 05:23 AM
 
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He wasn't prosecuted for his feelings, he was prosecuted for his illegal acts. It is a crime to possess child pornography. It's a crime to download it, have it, store it, share it. It wasn't an accidental thing. His goose was cooked and he well knew it.

This wasn't merely a 4 to 7 yr prison sentence, it was the rest of his life ruined by what he did (not to mention participating in the revictimization of hundreds or thousands of children). After prison, assuming he survived, he'd be on 20 years supervised probation, a registered sex offender, any monies he had would go to pay restitution, he would be a pariah forevermore, unemployed, and it never would have ended.

In some ways possessing child porn is worse than committing murder.

He heaped upon himself a ton of Karma, culminating in taking his own life. Those who believe in Karma and a soul's journey realize he's going to have to work to balance this Karma, possibly through many lifetimes.
So what about those who are getting rich off the industry? Why aren't a ton of them being put away? In essence, we are punishing addicts but not dealers--and it sounds like the dealers are the ones harming children.
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