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Old 02-01-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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Of course mental illness causes people to act out, but AGAIN you're grouping everyone together.
So, if I say we're all human, am I just grouping everyone together? If I say everyone on CD is an internet user, am I grouping us all together? I thought I was stating a fact that we could agree on--that mental illness messes with your mind and causes you to act against your nature. I'm not saying that leaving your house naked to go pick flowers is the same as having over 600 videos of children being abused. It is not to imply that they are the same offense, just that they are not rational.

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What does being religious or not religious have to do with knowing evil is out there? It doesn't.
Evil refers to sin, according to Merriam-Webster. Sin is a Biblical concept. If you see it differently, then what do you think causes it? As a curious person, I would want to see if that means we can prevent it somehow. Or at least some degree of it. Which could, in turn, save some children from having to endure the abuse they endure so these videos can be made. If there weren't such a demand, would they be so plentiful that he would have so many?

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Susan Smith the woman who drowned her two little boys because the man she was dating didn't want kids around is a perfect example of evil. It wasn't mental illness. She wanted the kids out of the way because of her new man.

She planned the whole thing and than tried to say a black man carjacked her(in the south of all places), she knew what she was doing. Even did her fake crying(no tears) on TV, but the cops were already on to her.
I remember that case. What I read about it strongly suggested that she was mentally ill. Do I find that almost impossible to believe? Yes, I admit it. But if she was--and we, as a society, could do something to prevent crimes like that, shouldn't we?

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You're not too educated on the subject, if you think you have to be a bible thumper(I am far from that) to think there are evil people around.

No reason at all to bring religion into this, there are bad people out there who know exactly what they're doing, and no prescription or therapy is going to help them.
You're being kind of a jerk, and for no reason that I can see. I never insinuated you were a "bible thumper." At most, I indirectly asked if you saw this as a religious issue.
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Old 02-01-2018, 08:34 AM
 
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I think you are being dismissive of the suffering of the children who are used to satisfy this perversion.
Nope. Read all of my posts before you make that assertion. Or don't. It's just a message board.

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This man had video of children as young as age 3 being sexually assaulted for his pleasure.

Mental illness like depression, schizophrenia, etc cause all sorts of havoc for the sufferers and their families but they don't involve the exploitation of innocents.
I don't want to get into my personal life in detail, but I'll go as far as to say that I have seen mental illness drive someone to physically harm those who were innocent and incapable of fighting back. But that's still beside the point, because all I was really driving at is that having a mental illness causes you to be irrational if it's untreated, and it's possible (I'm not a psychiatrist) that having an attraction to those who cannot consent could be considered a treatable (or even preventable) mental illness.
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Old 02-01-2018, 08:47 AM
 
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Do people who view child porn sicken you as well?

I have a hard time feeling sorry for sickos like this.
I'm not answering for Romulus, but for me.

Anyone having anything to do with child porn makes me sick. Nevertheless, Mark Salling's suicide still saddens me. I hate to think of the fear and despair of children in the porn industry and I hate to think of his misery and despair as he made the decision to take his own life. It's not the same as feeling sympathy or empathy for him.

It's possible to feel both sickened by someone and sad that they took their own life.
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Old 02-01-2018, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Whatever this man allegedly did he arrived at a point where he couldn't face the future. My heart goes out to those who have nowhere to turn and finish up with no other alternative than to take their own life. Those on this thread who rejoice in this man's suicide sicken me . . .
I agree.

Having pity for someone is not the same thing as excusing their behavior, and it does not indicate that we don't think they should suffer full consequences.
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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I agree.

Having pity for someone is not the same thing as excusing their behavior, and it does not indicate that we don't think they should suffer full consequences.
I have no pity for a child predator. He chose to end his life because he didn't want to face prison time. Some might call him a predator as well as chicken *****.

The same poster you quoted has no concern for the innocent children because it doesn't affect him. Why would he have concern over the celebrity/predator and not the children???
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:13 AM
 
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I agree.

Having pity for someone is not the same thing as excusing their behavior, and it does not indicate that we don't think they should suffer full consequences.
Well said.
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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I think you are being dismissive of the suffering of the children who are used to satisfy this perversion.
This man had video of children as young as age 3 being sexually assaulted for his pleasure.

Mental illness like depression, schizophrenia, etc cause all sorts of havoc for the sufferers and their families but they don't involve the exploitation of innocents.
Well said.
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Do you mean innocent?
Yes, lol.
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Old 02-01-2018, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I have no pity for a child predator. He chose to end his life because he didn't want to face prison time. Some might call him a predator as well as chicken *****.

The same poster you quoted has no concern for the innocent children because it doesn't affect him. Why would he have concern over the celebrity/predator and not the children???
Don't be dense. NO ONE said we don't have concern over the children. They are the first in line to be concerned with.
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Old 02-01-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Don't be dense. NO ONE said we don't have concern over the children. They are the first in line to be concerned with.
Did you have trouble understanding the post from the person I was quoting. He clearly doesn't concern himself with such matters, but he clearly concerns himself with the child predator. You may want to re-read his post. It can't be any more clear. Don't be dense.
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