RIP Michael Jackson (actress, techno, 80s, picture)

[Sambazon]

Originally Posted by Bueller427

I am in mourning..... I am listening to Billy jean as I write this...NOT!

GOODBYE YOU PEDOPHILE !!!!

Wow... really? You deserve to have a pineapple shoved up your rectum. I'm not even gonna get started, to avoid turning this into an innocent v.s. guilty flamewar.

Regardless, Michael Jackson is an icon, and nothing can change the fact that he's a truly gifted performer who has accomplished so much in his life. Rest in peace.

[Mike1306]

Michael Jackson's Autopsy Results Are In....

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He died of food poisoning, apparently he ate 12 year old nuts.

[AsymptoticFaery]

Michael Jackson was brilliant, insanely talented and he left an indelible, inimitable, phenomenal, revolutionary and surreal mark on the face of entertainment and music...forever. No matter what you feel or interpret about the personal life he led, this is inarguable.

It's so easy to call him a freak, a nut bar, a lunatic, a black sellout, a child molester (without any conclusive and solid facts in cases that were actually shown to involve some families who lied and extorted) a crazed individual, but none of us led his extremely surreal and abnormal lifestyle since he was a wee child. Also put into motion that he was -obviously- a very ultra sensitive individual who never got treatment for any of the traumatizing things he faced growing up and that he continued to face ALL in the public spotlight. He essentially lived almost all of his life in the public eye. He was affected by things most people probably easily get over...take for granted and don't even/ever experience at all.

I'd like to see how many would be so stable and well put together in such a context of nature and circumstances.

He magically transformed on stage to ALL regardless of what one preferred musically...showing confidence and a powerful presence especially during the zenith of his career, but once he was offstage, he was said to be a completely different person. Shy, soft spoken, withdrawn, reclusive, insecure, obsessed, broken, damaged, removed, lonely and highly misunderstood and unknown to most on a very personal level. This has been said and seen by so many who were around him during his life to varying degrees. It is being said NOW. We could all see how troubled he was and increasingly became we grew up with him through media view. No doubt he became mentally ill creating a complete world or fantasy for himself.

It's also obvious that he was very isolated and alone emotionally. He mentioned this to Uri Geller, in interviews and to other friends who spoke of him during conversations on television. He really needed help. I think we can all agree with that. He -really- needed help...and that should have been offered to him much earlier on before it became a point of no return. I can't say how I would have been if I led his life. Even compared to other celebs, he really stood out in the immense fame he carried, regardless of the notorious edge it developed later around the 90s.

He suffered long and hard and although his talent was shared with the world as a result of his entry into entertainment so early on, it essentially cost him the possibility of having a long and healthy life emotionally and mentally. Was he destined to become famous regardless of what path he took or that was forced upon him, or could he have led another life and turned out much differently as a person? More stable, married and with family, living in normality but recognized at most by close friends and family for his talent?

I truly believe he became asexual. Don't think he was this way at first. I don't think he continue to hold a true attraction to anyone on a romantic level and the few dates and relationships he had were experiments and attempts to try to normalize his life but were inevitably doomed from the start. I mean he had the potential to bed a lot of women earlier on in his career if he wanted to but he didn't (at least of what we know) and we certainly never heard of any attractions to and pursuits of men.

I think he was intensively obsessed with children because the company of children is often untainted and non-judgmental. Children make you forget about all of your troubles, worries and the world at large. It seems he considered children his best allies and inspiration. He was fascinated and personally identified with Peter Pan. He wanted to be a child forever...and looking at his past...one can understand why. I think his emotional growth stopped somewhere earlier on in childhood. He NEVER led any semblance of a normal childhood that most of us lead or would classify as normal. I think he froze in time here and carried this with him into adulthood where it warped his perception of self and identity. Did he molest children as part of this development, feeling mentally that children were even suitable romantic interests along with platonic playmates? I honestly can't say I am -positively- sure but I just do not believe he went that route and this is not delusion on my part or not wanting to see him as a pedophile. I accept that people can become flawed and do harm...even those we admire from early on for talent because they are human but there is no and never was any hard proof. Plus I believe more in what I said further above.

Being asexual, obsessed with children and wanting to forever be young and childlike oneself, having a fixation with being genderless and raceless...is not something the world will understand, tolerate or accept from a grown black man regardless of what physical abuse he put himself through with OBVIOUS issues of body dysmorphia. He made all of the wrong choices which didn't help to lessen the suspicions that people had about his affairs with children or of his nature overall. Again, we including myself, don't really know the -absolute- truth but these are -my- views.

I think the comforting thing now is that he is finally in and at peace. His body and soul were obviously very tired...

[jfkIII]

get over it...let's move on. Time and life thankfully keep going and don't stop for no one.

[jfkIII]

He's dangled his last kid over a balcony. He was just plain whacky.

[RFSilver]

Originally Posted by eevee

I was so sad when I heard the news at work. I work at an airport and the Tvs at the gate were all tuned onto CNN and a ton of people were just standing at the TVs, listening to the reports. sad day, especially right on the heels of Farrah's Fawcett's death and Ed McMahan (though, as sad as their deaths were, they were easier to prepare for since both, esp. Farrah, had been in poor health)

I'm a child of the mid 80's and grew up listening to the Jackson 5 and Michael Jackson. I still remember being frightened by the Thriller video, even though I loved the song. I know it's beyond cheesy, but when I was a kid, my favorite MJ song (second only to Beat It) was the song from "Free Willy". like I said, cheesy, but I loved his cheesy, sentimental songs just as much as his major hits

regardless of his life outside the music world, he was a true musical genius and will be missed.

being cheesy nothing... love your childhood cause millions of kids don't get to have one. Peace

[nmnita]

you know, at first I had to wonder how so many could get so emotional a star and then I think back: It was 1964, I had 3 little kids and my husband expected to come home from work and finding me crying: well I wasn't crying, but I did have the old 33s playing, who was I listening to? Nat King Cole. To this day I miss him and his wonderful voice. I will add, at this stage of my life, I don't think the passing of any star, being it a sports star or a entertainer would bother me that much, but certainly there were times. Nat is the one that sticks in my mind the most, but there were others.

OH, take that back, I will be pretty upset when Sandy Kofax dies..Mainly cause that will be the end of a baseball time I will always remember.

Nita

[njkate]

MJ was a troubled soul, that whole Neverland thing I think evolved out of MJ not having a childhood, he was never just a little boy, he was what 5 years old when his parents pushed him into show business and years later stories came out where home life wasn't exactly rosy.
As far as the allegations I don't know if they were true or just an opportunist looking for a windfall.
That said you can not deny his talent.

I hope MJ finally finds peace.

[Roselvr]

Originally Posted by eevee

I'm a child of the mid 80's and grew up listening to the Jackson 5 and Michael Jackson. I still remember being frightened by the Thriller video, even though I loved the song. I know it's beyond cheesy, but when I was a kid, my favorite MJ song (second only to Beat It) was the song from "Free Willy". like I said, cheesy, but I loved his cheesy, sentimental songs just as much as his major hits.

I don't understand what you said about growing up with the Jackson 5 if you were a child of the 80's.

from wiki link

Originally Posted by wiki

The Jackson 5 were one of the biggest pop-music phenomena of the 1970s..
Upon their departure from Motown for CBS in 1976, The Jacksons were forced to change their name and replace Jermaine (who remained at Motown) with younger brother Randy. After two years under the Philadelphia International Records label, they signed with Epic Records and asserted control of their songwriting, production, and image, and their success continued into the 1980s with hits such as "Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)" and "State of Shock". Their 1989 album 2300 Jackson Street was recorded without Michael and Marlon...

. Animation producers Rankin/Bass produced The Jackson 5ive, a Saturday morning cartoon that debuted on September 11, 1971 and ran for two seasons on ABC. The Jackson 5 starred in two of their own television specials, Goin' Back to Indiana (aired September 16, 1971) and The Jackson 5 Show (aired November 5, 1972).

In 1971, Motown began a spin-off solo career for Michael, whose first single, "Got to Be There," was a Top 5 hit. Michael also sang the title track for the 1972 motion picture Ben. His other successful solo singles included "Rockin' Robin" and "I Wanna Be Where You Are" (both 1972)

In summer 1976, CBS television signed the Jackson family (including Michael, Marlon, Tito, Jackie, Randy, Rebbie, LaToya, and Janet) to appear in their own variety show, to compete with ABC's Donny & Marie. The Jacksons debuted on June 16, 1976, and ran on CBS until its cancellation the following March.

I'll stop there.. The 80's were more Michael then The Jacksons - they did not use the name Jackson 5 since 1975/76 when they moved to CBS.

Being born in the late 60's, you would have grown up with the Jackson's cartoon as well as all the classic Jackson 5

[LQQKOUT]

Michael Jackson will be missed regardless of his last 18 years in the media. I believe we not only lost a pop icon we are mourning our own memories of where we were when we hear his songs and our memories of our childhood. Everyone young and old knows who Michael Jackson was. Michael Jackson was one of my first musical crushes as a young girl.