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Old 03-28-2011, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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However, if AT&T thinks they are also going to acquire T-Mo's 46 million customers, they are wrong.
Very true. At&t definitely won't acquire 46 million customers from T-mobile because they "only" have ~33 million customers.

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Old 03-28-2011, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Maryland not Murlin
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Very true. At&t definitely won't acquire 46 million customers from T-mobile because they "only" have ~33 million customers.

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You get my point. Many T-Mo customers are upset by this, and, many really do not like AT&T. Some will transition over to AT&T, but many have already stated they will go elsewhere. Myself included. I don't think AT&T really cares, though, since what they are really after is T-Mo's network; in particular T-Mo's connections between land line, cellular, and computer "pipelines".

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Old 03-28-2011, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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You get my point. Many T-Mo customers are upset by this, and, many really do not like AT&T. Some will transition over to AT&T, but many have already stated they will go elsewhere. Myself included. I don't think AT&T really cares, though, since what they are really after is T-Mo's network; in particular T-Mo's connections between land line, cellular, and computer "pipelines".

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My view is that this was mostly a block of sprint merging with T-Mo and thus making AT&T the #3 carrier.
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:25 PM
 
Location: East Bay Area
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T-Mobile has been losing record numbers of subscribers, stock value, and revenue for years. Let's not pretend that this, the merger, will be the reason T-Mobile customers leave.
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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T-Mobile has been losing record numbers of subscribers, stock value, and revenue for years. Let's not pretend that this, the merger, will be the reason T-Mobile customers leave.
T-Mobile was losing customers based on reception mostly, when the merger is complete they will be leaving because of rising prices. A little common sense goes a long way. Most people know each carriers positives and negatives. T-Mobile was the cheapest but if you lived in a desolate area most likely your reception wasn't great.
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Old 05-15-2011, 11:34 PM
 
Location: East Bay Area
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"when the merger is complete they will be leaving because of rising prices."- Lancet71

After 10 years of consolidation, wireless prices have declined by 50%.
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AT&T will honor T-Mobile contracts until they expire
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The merger would allow AT&T, mith more spectrum, customers, and revenue, to spread the cost of running a nationwide network over more customers, lowering its costs and further improving its margins.

Talk about leverage.


"A little common sense goes a long way" - Lancet71


Yes it does.

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Old 05-16-2011, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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"when the merger is complete they will be leaving because of rising prices."- Lancet71

After 10 years of consolidation, wireless prices have declined by 50%.
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AT&T will honor T-Mobile contracts until they expire
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The merger would allow AT&T, mith more spectrum, customers, and revenue, to spread the cost of running a nationwide network over more customers, lowering its costs and further improving its margins.

Talk about leverage.


"A little common sense goes a long way" - Lancet71


Yes it does.
You can cut up all the posts you want, T-Mobile customers who are on one or 2 year deals will not be allowed to stay in T-Mobile rates when they go to re-up and claim a new upgrade phone. At that time they will be put into AT&T's high priced contracts. Alltel customers were also allowed to stay in their contracts till the end but at least they were getting a superior network. AT&T cannot claim that!
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Old 05-16-2011, 10:19 PM
 
Location: East Bay Area
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"T-Mobile customers who are on one or 2 year deals will not be allowed to stay in T-Mobile rates when they go to re-up and claim a new upgrade phone. At that time they will be put into AT&T's high priced contracts" - Lancet71


The merger would allow AT&T, mith more spectrum, customers, and revenue, to spread the cost of running a nationwide network over more customers, lowering its costs and further improving its margins.

"Alltel customers were also allowed to stay in their contracts till the end but at least they were getting a superior network. AT&T cannot claim that!"


"AT&T and T-Mobile USA customers will see service improvements - including improved voice quality - as a result of additional spectrum, increased cell tower density and broader network infrastructure"

"At closing, AT&T will immediately gain cell sites equivalent to what would have taken on average five years to build without the transaction, and double that in some markets. The combination will increase AT&Tís network density by approximately 30 percent in some of its most populated areas"

"provides an efficient path to gaining the spectrum and network assets needed to provide T-Mobile customers with 4G LTE and the best devices"

AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA from Deutsche Telekom | Business Wire

T-Mobile and AT&T customers will no doubt experience a "superior network." They can, claim that!

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Old 05-17-2011, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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"T-Mobile customers who are on one or 2 year deals will not be allowed to stay in T-Mobile rates when they go to re-up and claim a new upgrade phone. At that time they will be put into AT&T's high priced contracts" - Lancet71


The merger would allow AT&T, mith more spectrum, customers, and revenue, to spread the cost of running a nationwide network over more customers, lowering its costs and further improving its margins.

"Alltel customers were also allowed to stay in their contracts till the end but at least they were getting a superior network. AT&T cannot claim that!"


"AT&T and T-Mobile USA customers will see service improvements - including improved voice quality - as a result of additional spectrum, increased cell tower density and broader network infrastructure"

"At closing, AT&T will immediately gain cell sites equivalent to what would have taken on average five years to build without the transaction, and double that in some markets. The combination will increase AT&Tís network density by approximately 30 percent in some of its most populated areas"

"provides an efficient path to gaining the spectrum and network assets needed to provide T-Mobile customers with 4G LTE and the best devices"

AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA from Deutsche Telekom | Business Wire

T-Mobile and AT&T customers will no doubt experience a "superior network." They can, claim that!
Do you even believe the BS you spew? T-Mobile is such an inferior network and has ALWAYS had very few towers. AT&T had tons of deals for roaming and that is why they never expanded and ALWAYS avoided building new towers. Now with the merger they have more towers but are not necessarily building more. This will eventually improve reception for T-Mobile customers because of signal based on roaming but not based on a company that is willing to reinvest to improve their network.
Once again, we know you work for AT&T but don't lie to the public and try to claim that AT&T is a superior network, it isn't. It is just a carrier with negotiated roaming deals. Sprint and Verizon Wireless are doing major upgrades, not AT&T. Now we have to see if Sprint's financial woes cause a merger between them and Verizon Wireless. Boy, you'd have no defense then on your propoganda.
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Old 05-17-2011, 07:53 PM
 
Location: East Bay Area
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"AT&T had tons of deals for roaming and that is why they never expanded and ALWAYS avoided building new towers." - Lancet71

Wrong! Where are you getting this information from?

It's your opinion, no matter how fraudulent it may be, but if you want to see facts:

"the carrier made significant improvements in 2009. Bridges said AT&T added about 1,900 new cell sites, more than 100,000 new circuits for backhaul and doubled the number of fiber-served cell sites.
But perhaps the most high-profile improvements were the addition of 850 MHz spectrum in a number of markets, as well as deployment of HSPA 7.2 software at all of AT&T's 3G cell towers nationwide"

Report: AT&T Network Upgrades Pay Off Big Time | Wireless Week

"$19 billion spent in 2010 on new cell towers, preparations for faster LTE and more"

"specifying that AT&T invested $8.2 billion in network improvements in the first six months of the year, adding 600 new cell towers and sites, among other improvements. Average national mobile network speeds in the first six months were up more than 25%, the carrier added."

AT&T boasts of billions spent on network improvements - Computerworld

"The nation's second largest carrier--which plans to spend between $18 billion and $19 billion on capital expenditures in 2010--said that in the first half of the year it added 600 new cell sites, upgraded 925 cell sites to 3G services and deployed more than 6,500 additional radio carriers and 32 Distributed Antenna Systems"

AT&T touts network improvements under hail of criticism - FierceWireless


"Now with the merger they have more towers but are not necessarily building more. This will eventually improve reception for T-Mobile customers because of signal based on roaming but not based on a company that is willing to reinvest to improve their network." - Lancet71

What?

Combining T-Mobile’s cell towers with AT&T’s in major metropolitan areas would increase AT&T’s network density by approximately 30 percent. The denser a wireless network, the better its quality because there is a greater capacity to handle voice calls and data at top transmission speeds without the risk of dropping them when users move between cell towers. Furthermore, more cell towers in AT&T’s heavy-usage cities would increase AT&T’s spectrum availability

" if a carrier wants to put up a new tower, or add antennas to existing towers, it has to get permission from the local zoning board. This can be an extremely onerous process as different localities will have different reasons to hold up the process. Buying a competitor is therefore also an obvious way to get access to more towers."

AT&T/T-Mobile highlights artificial spectrum scarcity


The merger will give AT&T as many new cell towers = to five years of construction. Assuming in the 5 years, all cell tower proposals gets approved..*clear throat, San Francisco*

Can AT&T buy T-Mobile? Five key factors. - Geographic coverage - CSMonitor.com


"Once again, we know you work for AT&T but don't lie to the public and try to claim that AT&T is a superior network, it isn't." - Lancet71

You said: "Alltel customers were also allowed to stay in their contracts till the end but at least they were getting a superior network. AT&T cannot claim that!"

I'm saying: AT&T and T-Mobile combined networks will in no doubt produce a superior network to what current seperate AT&T and T-Mobile customers experience.

Thus, AT&T can claim that!


"Once again, we know you work for AT&T but don't lie to the public.....Sprint and Verizon Wireless are doing major upgrades, not AT&T." - Lancet71

Once again, fraudulent!

Which company do you work for, Sprint or Verizon?


"Now we have to see if Sprint's financial woes cause a merger between them and Verizon Wireless. Boy, you'd have no defense then on your propoganda" - Lancet71

When asked if Verizon considered buying T-Mobile, Mead said Verizon "didn't think through that; we didn't think there was a need."

"We've been through a series of great acquisitions ... and we're extremely confident of where we're at," Mead continued.

On Monday, Mead told Reuters that Verizon also has no interest in buying Sprint. "We're not interested in Sprint. We don't need them," he said.

Sprint 'Concerned' About AT&T-T-Mobile Deal, Verizon Will 'Be Watching' | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

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