Samsung: Apple wouldn’t have sold a single iPhone without stealing our tech (PDA, update)

[TurcoLoco]

Samsung, Apple patent lawsuit documents revealed ahead of trial

[dontaskwhy]

Another case of big corporations getting in a P.....ing match over who is better and a source of future frivolous lawsuits that only makes the lawyers richer. Truly pathetic !!

[Malloric]

Originally Posted by dontaskwhy

Another case of big corporations getting in a P.....ing match over who is better and a source of future frivolous lawsuits that only makes the lawyers richer. Truly pathetic !!

Patent war round infinity. They have run out of good ideas to take market share through innovation, so they are all now suing the crap out of one another.

[texdav]

Now I read that the judge has said the jury is to be instructioned that Samsung destroyed e-mails in the case. looking abd for samsung.

[Malloric]

Not really news, all big corporations today have standard email retention policies. The ones I worked at were usually 30-90 days for internal email, anything that fell under SoX was obviously much longer. Remember the whole LCD price fixing thing a few years back? They had one guy read emails into the record for two days straight. That is just deposition time to read emails into the record, crazy. Someone had to go through all those emails on both sides. One side to find the damaging ones, the other side to find the context to defend against any damaging implications. Then you spend two days simply reading them into the record... not asking questions, what does this mean to you? type questions. I was in another one with charter schools suing one another for stealing the customers, err I mean students... 43 days of previous depositions and it was not even ready to go to trial, much of it dealing with emails and other internal documents going back years and years. Multi-state groundwater pollution case with the gas station inspector, entire morning on one gas station inspector for one county reading field notes into the record. List goes on and on. Data retention means you don't go through discovery on something that does not exist any longer. In federal jurisdiction you have limitations which are both good and bad. Yes, there is the chance that there is the smoking gun in one of those thousands and thousands of emails. People are amazingly stupid in what they put in writing.

[K-Luv]

I thought Apple stole the idea for the iPhone from the LG Prada?

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by K-Luv

I thought Apple stole the idea for the iPhone from the LG Prada?

Sony, actually, and possibly others.

In Apple-Samsung trial, it's John Quinn v. Judge Koh

I follow the case here:

Groklaw - Digging for Truth

[Edited]
Actually, you're right. The LG Prada was out before the iPhone.

Samsung also had their own similar designs already created in 2006, it appears:

http://www.osnews.com/story/26230/Sa...screen_devices

The judge did not permit this evidence to be used, creating quite a legal scene, apparently.

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?s...12080117581118

[yowps3]

Japanese are the transparent corporates behind all these electronic devices..

They have massive influence on the technology from South Korea & California, all the internals and circuits etc are Japanese..

[Malloric]

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

Sony, actually, and possibly others.

In Apple-Samsung trial, it's John Quinn v. Judge Koh

I follow the case here:

Groklaw - Digging for Truth

[Edited]
Actually, you're right. The LG Prada was out before the iPhone.

Samsung also had their own similar designs already created in 2006, it appears:

Samsung reveals its pre-iPhone concepts: 10 touchscreen devices

The judge did not permit this evidence to be used, creating quite a legal scene, apparently.

Groklaw - Food Fight in Apple v. Samsung ~pj - Updated 2Xs

Good material, been following that case although obviously not to that extent. Thanks for the links.

[rcsteiner]

In case anyone was thinking that Apple was the first to do some neat tricks with inertial scrolling, here's a couple of demo videos from Sun in 1991-1992 showing their Star7 with a very interesting touch interface. All Java-based, I guess:

Star7 Demo - YouTube

The Star7 PDA Prototype - YouTube