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Old 07-21-2015, 06:06 PM
 
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Around 2 million, give or take. We don't know the average selling price exactly but it should be somewhere between a low end sport and say the Milanese loop that sells for $699.

So yes, it's entirely plausible that the entire YoY gain (and then some - remember "other" actually shrunk in Q2) is from the Apple Watch. No need for five million opening day sales or whatever ridiculous metric you'll dream up next to try to call it a flop.

You're just wishing for failure but can't cite a single bit of actual evidence to support it. Even the "evidence" you started the thread with doesn't support what you wish to be true.

2 million? LOL! Try 4X that.

Your head is so far up Cook's behind that I don't think you know which way is up.

Here on planet Earth, all the facts point to the Watch being a flop, even Wall Street knows this. Funny how you keep sidestepping why Cook continues to hide its sales figures.... does that sound like a success to you? LOL!
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:49 PM
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2 million? LOL! Try 4X that.

Your head is so far up Cook's behind that I don't think you know which way is up.

Here on planet Earth, all the facts point to the Watch being a flop, even Wall Street knows this. Funny how you keep sidestepping why Cook continues to hide its sales figures.... does that sound like a success to you? LOL!
So you think those watches cost $100? You really just don't have anything remotely resembling a clue.

Incidentally, the 2 million +- number I came up with from the revenue report matches the 20k/day sales your own link said.
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:54 PM
 
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So you think those watches cost $100? You really just don't have anything remotely resembling a clue.

Incidentally, the 2 million +- number I came up with from the revenue report matches the 20k/day sales your own link said.

Profit on each watch is around $100. They would need to sell 8.7 Million to reach $870 Million.



Again, why is Cook refusing to release such glowing sales numbers?
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Old 07-21-2015, 07:20 PM
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Profit on each watch is around $100. They would need to sell 8.7 Million to reach $870 Million.



Again, why is Cook refusing to release such glowing sales numbers?
ah, so you don't know the difference between revenue and profit.
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Old 07-21-2015, 07:38 PM
 
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I really see the watch as a accessory to I phone and either you want to add it or not. Since I Phone are popular then watch will sales to a per cent age. Apple is not hurting with tis 92% of profits made on smart phones they can afford to offer it as option. I thought the interesting news they didn't announce was hiring a vehicle executive.
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Old 07-21-2015, 07:42 PM
 
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ah, so you don't know the difference between revenue and profit.

Why do you refuse to answer a simple question?

"WHY DOES A BRAGGART LIKE TIM COOK REFUSE TO RELEASE SALES FIGURE FOR THE WATCH?"


Even if they sold 2 million watches, that's not even 5% of iPhone 6 sales. Which means that over 95% of iPhone 6 owners (targeted buyers for the Watch) have rejected the Watch. That's success to you? LOL!

Comparing Watch sales to initial iPhone sales is a fallacy. The reason iPhone became a huge success is because of it's tremendous growth to eventually sell 500 Million in total. If you think the Watch will come anywhere near that you are more delusional than Cook.

It is a niche product in a niche market, nothing more, nothing less. Unless they come up with one that is a stand alone device that makes calls and surfs the web, it will stay that way.
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Old 07-21-2015, 07:54 PM
 
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I really see the watch as a accessory to I phone and either you want to add it or not. Since I Phone are popular then watch will sales to a per cent age. Apple is not hurting with tis 92% of profits made on smart phones they can afford to offer it as option. I thought the interesting news they didn't announce was hiring a vehicle executive.

Yeah, it's a $400 accessory to iPhone..... which 95% of iPhone owners have rejected.

Quite the success. LOL!
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Old 07-21-2015, 08:09 PM
 
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2 million? LOL! Try 4X that.

Your head is so far up Cook's behind that I don't think you know which way is up.

Here on planet Earth, all the facts point to the Watch being a flop, even Wall Street knows this. Funny how you keep sidestepping why Cook continues to hide its sales figures.... does that sound like a success to you? LOL!
The 1st iPhone sold less than 1.4 million in the first year, sold 48 million last quarter, and is only recently facing any real competition. So, comparatively speaking, the iPhone is a flop too.

From a practical standpoint you should be comparing Apple watch sales to Android watch sales (or even better - to a specific smart watch) and see how they compare.
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Old 07-21-2015, 08:37 PM
 
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The 1st iPhone sold less than 1.4 million in the first year, sold 48 million last quarter, and is only recently facing any real competition. So, comparatively speaking, the iPhone is a flop too.

From a practical standpoint you should be comparing Apple watch sales to Android watch sales (or even better - to a specific smart watch) and see how they compare.

When Apple introduced the original iPhone, they were completely new to the market with no built-in fanbase whatsoever. Sales increased exponentially each year because it was actually something the public wanted. It was completely different with the Watch as they had hundreds of millions of audience yet over 95% of them have rejected the Watch. That's why it's a flop.

You can't compare the Watch to its competitors because Apple has spent hundreds of millions in development and advertising. 2 Million sales would be great for anyone except Apple. If Apple sells just 2 Million per year, it will be axed in a heartbeat. Heck, even the iPod sold 14 MILLION last year.
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Old 07-21-2015, 09:24 PM
 
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When Apple introduced the original iPhone, they were completely new to the market with no built-in fanbase whatsoever. Sales increased exponentially each year because it was actually something the public wanted. It was completely different with the Watch as they had hundreds of millions of audience yet over 95% of them have rejected the Watch. That's why it's a flop.
iPod, and (probably) to a lesser extent, Mac users were the fanbase. Anybody familiar with the iPod already knew about Apple, iTunes, how synergetic the Apple products were, and how seamlessly you could transfer music, games, and other media.

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You can't compare the Watch to its competitors because Apple has spent hundreds of millions in development and advertising. 2 Million sales would be great for anyone except Apple. If Apple sells just 2 Million per year, it will be axed in a heartbeat. Heck, even the iPod sold 14 MILLION last year.
Excuse me? Then what exactly do you use for comparison purposes? A Macbook? A Toyota? No, you compare it to a similar product that it competes with and that is the Android based watches. (Or maybe that's just me being silly) Just on the first day they sold short of a million watches, more than the Android watches sold in an entire year and that's with 1 billion Android phones shipped in 2014. So, I'm not seeing how you can call this, and only this, a flop.

Android shipped 1 billion smartphones in 2014 - Business Insider

Personally, I would wait until this comes out.

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