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Old 04-01-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Still, I would like to use any new phone for a decade, like my old one that is breaking now. Thus I want a really good one.

Um...no. Not going to happen. You'd be damned lucky to get a solid 5 years out of one. After getting the battery replaced in year 3 which you cannot do yourself.


Have you looked at One Plus?
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Old 04-01-2019, 09:55 AM
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Location: San Antonio/Houston/Tricity
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Um...no. Not going to happen. You'd be damned lucky to get a solid 5 years out of one. After getting the battery replaced in year 3 which you cannot do yourself.


Have you looked at One Plus?
Not only that - the software doesn't get updated for 10 years. Most phones get security updates only for 3-4 years. This includes patches for bugs and security issues.
The battery will deteriorate too.
After that, you start to deal with a phone that is outdated, vulnerable and in some cases pretty useless...

So, you need to decide what you need the phone for - do you really need the most sophisticated and the most expensive phone that last maybe 3-4 years? Or you will be OK with a midrange that cost less. Or even refurbished models with full manufacture warranty...
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Old 04-01-2019, 10:38 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I agree with Elnina's suggestion to look for something that is considered to be the best smartphone in Europe.

I don't know if you can read German, but if you can, the equivalent to our Consumer's Report is Stiftung Warentest, which I used to read when I lived in Germany.

They just tested 357 mobile phones (called Handys in Germany and some other parts of Europe) this month, and here is a link to their article, "Smartphone-Test: 357 Handys im Vergleich":

https://www.test.de/Handys-und-Smart...est-4222793-0/
I don't like those site, they usually charge a fee for obtaining the test results.
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Old 04-01-2019, 10:45 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Not only that - the software doesn't get updated for 10 years. Most phones get security updates only for 3-4 years. This includes patches for bugs and security issues.
The battery will deteriorate too.
After that, you start to deal with a phone that is outdated, vulnerable and in some cases pretty useless...

So, you need to decide what you need the phone for - do you really need the most sophisticated and the most expensive phone that last maybe 3-4 years? Or you will be OK with a midrange that cost less. Or even refurbished models with full manufacture warranty...
Oh, I would not buy a top of the line phone, but I want a modern one for the money I pay.
3-4 years is a joke, I hate that wasteful, unsustainable, greedy attitude of manufacturers.
Can't one install a new version of Android whenever it is published? Like with installing a new Windows version on an older computer?

But before I consider a smartphone, I will order a replacement battery for my old phone from an online shop I found, maybe that will do. I could continue to use it for years to come
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Old 04-01-2019, 10:57 AM
 
Location: The Berk in Denver, CO USA
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I would like to use any new phone for a decade
Silly goal.
Not realistic.
Software changes too often. "Your phone is no longer supported."
Five years is the outside number.
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Old 04-02-2019, 03:58 AM
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Location: San Antonio/Houston/Tricity
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Oh, I would not buy a top of the line phone, but I want a modern one for the money I pay.
3-4 years is a joke, I hate that wasteful, unsustainable, greedy attitude of manufacturers.
Can't one install a new version of Android whenever it is published? Like with installing a new Windows version on an older computer?

But before I consider a smartphone, I will order a replacement battery for my old phone from an online shop I found, maybe that will do. I could continue to use it for years to come
No. That's not possible. System updates are not an app to download. Updates are sent to your phone and you update from there. There is no outside source to do such downloads.

Companies intentionally plan the obsolescence of their goods by updating the design or software and discontinuing support for older models, so that now it is usually cheaper and easier to buy a new product than to repair an old one.

Yes, obsolete gadgets are an environmental problem. Thankfully many European countries have banned technotrash from landfills.
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Old 04-08-2019, 05:46 PM
 
Location: ohio
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But before I consider a smartphone, I will order a replacement battery for my old phone from an online shop I found, maybe that will do. I could continue to use it for years to come

Better check with your carrier, that may not be possible. Example, Verizon is scheduled to deactivate the older network within a few years. People hanging on to old phones will have to get a new phone. They do have a few flip phones available that are compatible.
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Old 04-09-2019, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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Oh, I would not buy a top of the line phone, but I want a modern one for the money I pay.
3-4 years is a joke, I hate that wasteful, unsustainable, greedy attitude of manufacturers.
Can't one install a new version of Android whenever it is published? Like with installing a new Windows version on an older computer?

But before I consider a smartphone, I will order a replacement battery for my old phone from an online shop I found, maybe that will do. I could continue to use it for years to come
This sounds like someone trying to use an old Intel Pentium computer from the 2000's trying to update to Microsoft Windows 10. The older devices lack sufficient memory and processing power to use the latest operating systems. Been like this why as long as I remember it with phones and computers.
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Old 04-10-2019, 04:26 AM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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This sounds like someone trying to use an old Intel Pentium computer from the 2000's trying to update to Microsoft Windows 10. The older devices lack sufficient memory and processing power to use the latest operating systems. Been like this why as long as I remember it with phones and computers.
Not to mention a 10 year old smartphone is limited to 3g technology.
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Old 04-10-2019, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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Not to mention a 10 year old smartphone is limited to 3g technology.
Agreed, that is an excellent point which is even more relevant.
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