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Old 08-24-2010, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Summerville
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You do not present facts, you showed one teacher in ten years that was prosecuted for cheating on tests, you post an opinion piece from a College news paper that standardized tests lead to standardized teaching, well Duhhh that is the point.....
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Old 08-24-2010, 12:20 PM
 
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You do not present facts, you showed one teacher in ten years that was prosecuted for cheating on tests, you post an opinion piece from a College news paper that standardized tests lead to standardized teaching, well Duhhh that is the point.....
MiShawna Moore denies cheating, blames kids and oversight | The Voice for School Choice


"Moore did concede that heightened test monitoring procedures could not fully account for dramatic change and incongruity in scores – which statisticians claim could naturally occur in less than one percent of regular test taking – but offered no further theories on the bizarrely high scores on PACT during her tenure. Nor did she even mention the numerous erase marks found on dozens of tests."
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Old 08-24-2010, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Summerville
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MiShawna Moore denies cheating, blames kids and oversight | The Voice for School Choice


"Moore did concede that heightened test monitoring procedures could not fully account for dramatic change and incongruity in scores which statisticians claim could naturally occur in less than one percent of regular test taking but offered no further theories on the bizarrely high scores on PACT during her tenure. Nor did she even mention the numerous erase marks found on dozens of tests."
She was never charged or convicted......
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Old 08-24-2010, 12:54 PM
 
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Joe-Lisa-
If you live in West Ashley are commuting up Dorchester (toward Summerville) in the morning, that will pretty much be a reverse commute on Dorchester. Your bigger issue will be getting onto either 26 or 526. Someplace like Carolina Bay might actually suit that purpose well since 17 does not get as congested as Glen McConnell. Also avoid neighborhoods on 61 past the 61/Glen McConnell split that empty only onto 61. Sam Rittenberg can also be rough but I've heard the mornign is not as bad as the afternoon.

I live about 2 stop lights form downtown and have been working on a contract that takes me to the Air Force base with some frequency. I use the Dorchester Road Gate and have been pleasantly surprised how quick the 61 to Old Town Road to Cosgrove/26 commute has been.
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Old 08-26-2010, 05:26 PM
 
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People- QUIT. FEEDING. THE. TROLL.

A lady asked about how safe West Ashley is. The basic answer is pretty darned to exceedingly safe in the oldest and newest areas. We have now spent about 4 pages discussing opinions on SC's education, development, race issues as asserted by someone living 8 states away. WHY?

The final answer to who is right or wrong is basically this- alot of people who have options for where they live are chosing to move to this particular area in pretty large numbers. That alone says something.
I'm not buying the crime statistic that SC was number one at any time. I used to live a few miles from Camden as well...and in downtown Detroit next to a rescue mission.

Cities like that always top the list. And I can vouch for good reason
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Old 08-26-2010, 05:29 PM
 
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Are there any cool historic retail/commercial buildings in that area that might rent pretty cheap?
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:07 AM
 
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Most dangerous states: Crime rankings for 2010
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:18 AM
 
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No Surprise: South Carolina Ranks Fourth in Annual Crime Statistics | The Good Fight | Charleston City Paper

SC is a state, Camden and Detroit are cities.

Both metros are very violent; Charleston's is also.

Main difference is distribution of crime as to locale.
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:53 AM
 
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"It is incumbent upon all data users to become as well educated as possible about how to understand and quantify the nature and extent of crime in the United States and in any of the more than 17,000 jurisdictions represented by law enforcement contributors to the Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program. Valid assessments are possible only with careful study and analysis of the various unique conditions affecting each local law enforcement jurisdiction.

Historically, the causes and origins of crime have been the subjects of investigation by many disciplines. Some factors that are known to affect the volume and type of crime occurring from place to place are:

■Population density and degree of urbanization.
■Variations in composition of the population, particularly youth concentration.
■Stability of the population with respect to residents’ mobility, commuting patterns, and transient factors.
■Modes of transportation and highway system.
■Economic conditions, including median income, poverty level, and job availability.
■Cultural factors and educational, recreational, and religious characteristics.
■Family conditions with respect to divorce and family cohesiveness.
■Climate.
■Effective strength of law enforcement agencies.
■Administrative and investigative emphases of law enforcement.
■Policies of other components of the criminal justice system (i.e., prosecutorial, judicial, correctional, and probational).
■Citizens’ attitudes toward crime.
■Crime reporting practices of the citizenry.
Crime in the United States provides a nationwide view of crime based on statistics contributed by local, state, tribal, and federal law enforcement agencies. Population size and student enrollment are the only correlates of crime presented in this publication. Although many of the listed factors equally affect the crime of a particular area, the UCR Program makes no attempt to relate them to the data presented. The data user is, therefore, cautioned against comparing statistical data of individual reporting units from cities, counties, metropolitan areas, states, or colleges or universities solely on the basis of their population coverage or student enrollment. Until data users examine all the variables that affect crime in a town, city, county, state, region, or other jurisdiction, they can make no meaningful comparisons,"

FBI Uniform Crime Reports (2008).


And that's why the elevated crime/violent crime in all 3 metros.
It's not that they are full of 'bad people', it's that for a variety of sociological reasons they have conditions which feed criminal behavior.
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Summerville
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The problem with studies like that is that they are normed for population density, ie # of crimes per 100K people, this weights crime heavier in low population areas....

In other words if a place has one armed robery and they only have 10K people than they have crime rate of 10 armed roberies/100K.....

These tend to be misleading....
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