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No you have not, the Confederate Battle flag was used on the battle field as a rallying point for troops, not over government or policy.......
Now if you wish to talk about the first, second or third flag of the Confederacy than yes they flew over the government but never did the the battle flag.....
"I wrote to [Miles] that we should have two flags—a peace or parade flag, and a war flag to be used only on the field of battle—but congress having adjourned no action will be taken on the matter—How would it do us to address the War Dept. on the subject of Regimental or badge flags made of red with two blue bars crossing each other diagonally on which shall be introduced the stars, ... We would then on the field of battle know our friends from our Enemies."[4]
Last edited by OleTomCat; 10-18-2010 at 08:47 AM..
No you have not, the Confederate Battle flag was used on the battle field as a rallying point for troops, not over government or policy.......
Now if you wish to talk about the first, second or third flag of the Confederacy than yes they flew over the government but never did the the battle flag.....
"I wrote to [Miles] that we should have two flags—a peace or parade flag, and a war flag to be used only on the field of battle—but congress having adjourned no action will be taken on the matter—How would it do us to address the War Dept. on the subject of Regimental or badge flags made of red with two blue bars crossing each other diagonally on which shall be introduced the stars, ... We would then on the field of battle know our friends from our Enemies."[4]
Tom,
The troops in the field were doing the will of the Confederate Gov't- just as the Wehrmacht was obeying the commands of Berlin.
Funny thing about the 'Stars and Bars'- the reb battle rag.
At the war's start, they used the first reb rag, but since it was mostly white, it was hard to distinguish from a flag of surrender, esp by troops under battle conditions.
If you're into that type of trivia, look at the record of the initial S.C. troops re: flags.
Since the Palmetto State considered the 'Bonny Blue Flag' (and remember the opening verse of the song bearing that same name? The one so popular with the troops? Although it's attempted sanitization by latter-day Southern hypocrates who like the idea of secession, but are kinda luke-warm (For PR reasons, only) on slavery, it's words still shine through like a big turd all these years later:
"We are brothers, native to the soil.
Fighting for the property we earned by honest toil"
(Guess what that property was?) its personal emblem, South Carolina's troops hit the field dressed in uniforms of luxorious blue!
Bad idea!
But all this is trivia to the reality of renegade states seceeding so they could keep humans as chattel.
Last edited by Geechie North; 10-18-2010 at 11:42 AM..
The battle flag was to keep the solders in order, read what I posted.....
You are ignoring that, the battle flag is just that, the flag for the battle field so that they new where their battle lines were, had nothing to do with policy or anything else.....
The battle flag was to keep the solders in order, read what I posted.....
You are ignoring that, the battle flag is just that, the flag for the battle field so that they new where their battle lines were, had nothing to do with policy or anything else.....
So, the soldiers from the South, one day, on their own, with NO direction said:
'Hey, let's go fight.'
'Don't know why, but let's go fight.'
And, of course, the Union soldiers also showed up of their own accord.
No the solders were defending their homes from an invading army....
Most of the solders were not from slave holding families, and there were even black confederate solders, were they fighting to keep slaves too?
Tom,
Check the 'History' you claim to read:
The initial battle of the war was Bull Run (1st); South Carolina troops played a very crucial role in it (ever hear of a guy named 'Shanks', Gen. Bee?); you could count Ft. Sumter, but nobody from Charleston ever had a 'home' there. And it was an offensive move, besides.
It was fought in N. Va. Nobody from SC. could sleep in their 'homes' for at least 3 nights (post-battle).
As mentioned before, owning a slave in the South was like owning a car today.
It might be registered in one person's name, but the entire family takes advantage of it.
Which is why the 16% figure so often quoted for slave ownership becomes 50% for S.C., and 30% for places like Va. and N.C.
And the other 50-70%, well they were in a economy controlled by cotton, and thus slavery.
Even the site (a few posts back) you introduced says so.
I am not disputing the fact that slavery is bad and that the south owned slaves, the battle flag had nothing to do with slavery, it was a flag to keep battle lines organized.....
You can post all you want about 50% slave ownership but that has nothing to do with the battle flag....
I am not disputing the fact that slavery is bad and that the south owned slaves, the battle flag had nothing to do with slavery, it was a flag to keep battle lines organized.....
You can post all you want about 50% slave ownership but that has nothing to do with the battle flag....
Tom,
Without the Confederacy, would there have been a 'Confederate Battle Flag'?
Here's one for ya:
How many stars on said rag and why that number?
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