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There's that conspiracy theory rhetoric that the Democrats continuously accuse the Republicans of......it just never goes away.
By the way, that big storm they just had in the Midwest.....it was Bush's fault! Floods, earthquakes, tornadoes?? ALL Bush's doings. That darned Bush - wish he'd get a hobby!
thank you i was going to write that. new york city was one of the largest slave holding areas, as was Pennsylvania and ohio. My university, Brown University of Rhode Island, was built on slave profits since it was the slave ship building and sail making that brought black slaves to America.
so then the american flag should not be flown either it seems.
I always say, as long as they steal money from my pocket to pay for the inferior public schools in this country that i wouldnt send my kids to, then people can fly whatever flag they desire.
I will admit that there were a great many more slaves in the South but as you have pointed out, the agricultural economy of the south was reliant on slave labor while the industrial economy of the north was more reliant on machines.
It's funny though that the North didn't start outlawing slavery until AFTER the start of the industrial revolution...
If you're going to throw someone under the bus for grammatical errors, you probably should be squeaky clean on your grammar, spelling, and punctuation as well. The post you made above is far from it. I'd suggest editing the mistakes, or editing out the "OBTW" part.
Just saying...
Sorry, I forgot to hit the spell check before I hit post the second time....
I will admit that there were a great many more slaves in the South but as you have pointed out, the agricultural economy of the south was reliant on slave labor while the industrial economy of the north was more reliant on machines.
It's funny though that the North didn't start outlawing slavery until AFTER the start of the industrial revolution...
Of the 1,300,000 (mas o menos) slaves recorded in the 1810 census, less than 1,000 reside in 'Northern' States.
Those 1,000 we remnants- old people whose contracts had been locked in prior to 1800.
And you do know the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 forbade any form of slavery in the area north of the Ohio River.
Northern delegates to the Constitutional Convention tried to outlaw slavery; Rutledge of SC was able to quash the movement by saying no slavery, no South in Union.
The Civil War (1861-65) was fought because the South still had a mindset which treated people as chattel, and the North had moved on.
I trust you know of the Motke (that spelling doesn't look right, I'll correct if wrong) sisters? Garrison?
Speaking out about the treatment of woman in these cultures is not imposing the morals of our country on another. I guess we should have just let Hitler keep going too. Perhaps those who murder or rob others should be allowed to roam free so their morals are not imposed on by others. How about bullys while on the subject?
Like I said before, I've had the opportunity to discuss these issues with several woman from that region and the human abuses that go on there, well it's truly chilling. Before you talk about imposing morals, get the facts.
Human rights abuse is just wrong in any country at any point in time, and only gets corrected when it stops being ignored and swept under the rug.
Speaking out about the treatment of woman in these cultures is not imposing the morals of our country on another. I guess we should have just let Hitler keep going too. Perhaps those who murder or rob others should be allowed to roam free so their morals are not imposed on by others. How about bullys while on the subject?
Like I said before, I've had the opportunity to discuss these issues with several woman from that region and the human abuses that go on there, well it's truly chilling. Before you talk about imposing morals, get the facts.
Human rights abuse is just wrong in any country at any point in time, and only gets corrected when it stops being ignored and swept under the rug.
Happens here also.
You did read the link between fundamentalism of ALL religions and domestic abuse?
If you're going to throw someone under the bus for grammatical errors, you probably should be squeaky clean on your grammar, spelling, and punctuation as well. The post you made above is far from it. I'd suggest editing the mistakes, or editing out the "OBTW" part.
Of the 1,300,000 (mas o menos) slaves recorded in the 1810 census, less than 1,000 reside in 'Northern' States.
Those 1,000 we remnants- old people whose contracts had been locked in prior to 1800.
And you do know the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 forbade any form of slavery in the area north of the Ohio River.
Northern delegates to the Constitutional Convention tried to outlaw slavery; Rutledge of SC was able to quash the movement by saying no slavery, no South in Union.
The Civil War (1861-65) was fought because the South still had a mindset which treated people as chattel, and the North had moved on.
I trust you know of the Motke (that spelling doesn't look right, I'll correct if wrong) sisters? Garrison?
Abolitionists?
Note: it's Grimke sisters
So by No slavery after 1804 you meant no slavery except where there was still slavery.
Also, if you count the border states (Missouri, Kentucky,West Virginia, Maryland and Delaware) as part of the Union since they did not secede and Union troops were able to move freely through them, the picture is much different.
Kentucky and Maryland were particularly important to the Union Victory. Between those two states in 1860, there were more than 300,000 slaves
It seems that the Union had no problem with slavery if it served their purposes.
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