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Old 09-21-2011, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Mount Pleasant South Carolina
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The SC Department of Education just released the 2011 SAT scores for the state. (http://ed.sc.gov/topics/assessment/scores/sat/2011/documents/SAT2011-SchoolScores_%209_16_11.pdf - broken link)The composite scores for SC fell 7 points to 1436 from last year. However, the composite test score average at Wando High School increased by 9 points to 1523 with 77% of the seniors taking the test. It is interesting to note that the scores of Summerville HS and Fort Dorchester HS fell substantially.
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Mount Pleasant, SC
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Thanks USCJoe for the info. Don't like to hear that any of the SC composite scores fell but having a child at Wando, I am happy to hear that those are one of the composite test scores that improved.
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Am wondering why you felt the need to point out the schools where the scores fell? I can understand your tooting the horn for Wando - your neck of the woods - but not the rest. Hmmmm...couldn't be due to the higher socio-economic status of a higher percentage of students at Wando, could it? More money and parents with higher-level education levels = more experiences and opportunities for their children, thus higher achieving/higher test scores. Who da thunk?
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Summerville
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Hate to break this to yall but 10~30 points in score swing does not mean Jack, for those that have taken the SAT more than once you would know that the score you earn today maybe within 100 points of the one you take next month and they will not consider that a significant move......

Getting excited over 7 and 9 points is ridiculous...
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Mount Pleasant South Carolina
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I pointed it out for the same reason the the Post and Courier pointed out in their story that the composite test scores in Berkeley County rose 26 points and those in Charleston County and Dorchester County fell 11 and 14 points respectively. To inform the readers of a change in a matter of interest to parents, students and the South Carolina Department of Education I don't know the reason for the decline of 26 points by Summerviile High School or the increase of 9 points by Wando. I don't think that the socio-economic status of the Wando students changed from 2010 to 2011, nor those of the Summerville students in that same time frame had anything to do with the change. The number of test takers at Wando did decline from 591 to 583, which could have had something to do with the increase in composite scores. However, the number of test takers at Summerville declined from 393 to 359 which should have theoretically led to an increase in the composite score, but was not the case. Could the differences have had anything to do with better teaching or better preparation of the students to take the test ? More likely this is the case than a change in socio-economic status.


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Am wondering why you felt the need to point out the schools where the scores fell? I can understand your tooting the horn for Wando - your neck of the woods - but not the rest. Hmmmm...couldn't be due to the higher socio-economic status of a higher percentage of students at Wando, could it? More money and parents with higher-level education levels = more experiences and opportunities for their children, thus higher achieving/higher test scores. Who da thunk?

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Old 09-22-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Mount Pleasant South Carolina
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I suspect that the test results measured from one year to the next by the South Carolina Department of Education compared tests taken on the same day and not different days which might lead to an increase of decrease of test scores by the same students. If this is the case, the argument that ones test score may change from one day to the other is not relevant to the comparison of the 2010 to 2011 test scores. I do believe that a student or their family who have an interest in athletics may get excited over an increase of their football teams won-loss record from one year to the next. Why should a parent or student not get excited by an increase in the schools composite SAT score increase from one year to the next?

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Hate to break this to yall but 10~30 points in score swing does not mean Jack, for those that have taken the SAT more than once you would know that the score you earn today maybe within 100 points of the one you take next month and they will not consider that a significant move......

Getting excited over 7 and 9 points is ridiculous...
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I suspect that the test results measured from one year to the next by the South Carolina Department of Education compared tests taken on the same day and not different days which might lead to an increase of decrease of test scores by the same students. If this is the case, the argument that ones test score may change from one day to the other is not relevant to the comparison of the 2010 to 2011 test scores. I do believe that a student or their family who have an interest in athletics may get excited over an increase of their football teams won-loss record from one year to the next. Why should a parent or student not get excited by an increase in the schools composite SAT score increase from one year to the next?
I think it's important when you look at it in context with overall trends. Wando has been trending with higher scores for sometime now and this is yet another data point on that curve. For parents with students at Summerville High, you can take it with a grain of salt but would this data point mean a downward trend is occurring or just a one year anamoly. If I were a parent with a child at SHS, I would be paying closer attention, at the least.
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Mount Pleasant, SC
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This is a little off topic, but one thing Wando does right compared to where we come from is the way they encourage Freshmen and Sophmores to take the test as "practice" each year. Im going to assume that Summerville does the same. My son took it last year as a Freshman, and both boys will take it again this year. Back home kids aren't really thinking about SAT's until Jr. Year.
Even with the drop in points for Summerville those are nice scores, and they should be proud up the numbers they have posted. A single year shift is pretty statistically meaningless, but I was still glad to get the information. Thanks for the link!
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Old 09-22-2011, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Everyone in Summerville and surrounding areas should sell their homes and move to Mt. Pleasant so their children can attend Wando High School. There, it's said. Wow, that's going to be one huge school!
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Old 09-22-2011, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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I pointed it out for the same reason the the Post and Courier pointed out in their story that the composite test scores in Berkeley County rose 26 points and those in Charleston County and Dorchester County fell 11 and 14 points respectively. To inform the readers of a change in a matter of interest to parents, students and the South Carolina Department of Education I don't know the reason for the decline of 26 points by Summerviile High School or the increase of 9 points by Wando. I don't think that the socio-economic status of the Wando students changed from 2010 to 2011, nor those of the Summerville students in that same time frame had anything to do with the change. The number of test takers at Wando did decline from 591 to 583, which could have had something to do with the increase in composite scores. However, the number of test takers at Summerville declined from 393 to 359 which should have theoretically led to an increase in the composite score, but was not the case. Could the differences have had anything to do with better teaching or better preparation of the students to take the test ? More likely this is the case than a change in socio-economic status.
No, Joe, the newspaper just printed out all SC high school test scores - an objective article. You singled out a few local schools whose scores you wanted to broadcast had slightly dropped......these schools just happen to be in areas which compete with Mt. Pleasant for prospective home buyers. If you had your way, everyone who is looking to move to the Charleston area would buy in Mt. Pleasant. And if that happens...then what? You have Wando Super School with 10,000 students, traffic even worse than it is now, and elbow-to-elbow people fighting for a scrap of pavement. Is that what the people from Mt. Pleasant really want? Keep crowing, Joe!
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