Wando teacher fired (school, educational, property)

[roxanneself]

I thought it was funny that they chose to talk to my kid. He's never even met this teacher before, and I'm sure he formed an immediate opinion based on what the kids around him were saying. It was fun to see him on TV though. I know you all want to stay up until 11 to see him on the rebroadcast, right??? LOL
Channel Two, 11pm.

[SCBeaches]

Being a one-time incident, I think suspension without pay would have been punishment enough. He didn't have sex with a student, he didn't give the kids drugs or alcohol, didn't physically abuse anyone, didn't come to school drunk or high, didn't steal money, etc. If it was proven that he regularly watched movies on his laptop at school or had shown students inappropriate material before, firing might be the right thing to do...but if this was the only time it has happened, no, I don't think he should be fired. Everyone makes mistakes and poor judgement calls now and then. That's just my 2 cents worth.

[SCBeaches]

Originally Posted by roxanneself

I thought it was funny that they chose to talk to my kid. He's never even met this teacher before, and I'm sure he formed an immediate opinion based on what the kids around him were saying. It was fun to see him on TV though. I know you all want to stay up until 11 to see him on the rebroadcast, right??? LOL
Channel Two, 11pm.

I'll watch for him!

[OleTomCat]

Ok, for all of you who have never had to sign an acceptable use policy for a work computer what he did was clearly a terminable offense, I have seen the policy for CCSD, it is very clear on this and EVERYONE who works for CCSD has to sign one....

[bulldogrsp61]

Originally Posted by OleTomCat

Ok, for all of you who have never had to sign an acceptable use policy for a work computer what he did was clearly a terminable offense, I have seen the policy for CCSD, it is very clear on this and EVERYONE who works for CCSD has to sign one....

Just what CCSD needs ... fire a good teacher over a single case of bad judgment.

I'm quite certain that a strict adherence to that policy would have half the teachers in CCSD schools fired.

The acceptable use policy states "Do not swear or use vulgarities or other inappropriate language." Well what is considered bad for one is not necessarily bad for another. Many English words in everyday use are profane in other languages. Not to mention that some, let's say anal retentive, parents don't even want to have the word HECK used around their children.

Yeah .. stricter policy enforcement should warrant a lot of firings in the CCSD on that one point alone.

Then there's the point "Downloading and/or printing files and images containing content which is inappropriate for a K-12 setting is prohibited."

So that covers a LOT of content that should have a teacher fired. The policy doesn't say 'age appropriate' ... it says ".. inappropriate for a k-12 setting.." which basically says that any computer with an image or file that would be inappropriate for a kindergartner to look at is an offense that can warrant termination.

Common sense would say that showing a WWII history movie or a sex ed film to a senior in high school would be ok .. but not according to this policy.

But then .. who brought up common sense in Mr. Poston's case?

FYI ... source : http://www.ccsdedtech.com/employee.pdf

[sunnyskies1]

Actually it is a pretty big offense. We are thinking of it from an adult perspective. This was an incident in a school with children. Just because we don't find it offensive (which I do, Jackass is NOT watched in my home, even by my husband) doesn't mean another CHILD isn't going to find it shocking or offensive. I don't think it's okay to sit back and excuse the behavior because it is the norm for most teenagers. That child obviously was put into a very uncomfortable position. By a teacher's actions. It wasn't a miscommunication or misinterpretation, it was a bad judgement call. Sounds like he was trying to be the cool teacher.

As for the computer usage form, I had to sign that when I was a substitute and knew what it meant. It meant I could have been fired if I did something as foolish as searching the c-d forums when I subbed. I had to get administration permission to use the computer for my grad school work (during planning periods and study halls ONLY) when I was a substitute. As a teacher I have to screen videos very carefully, and make certain of their rating before I show them. That is just teaching 101.

I am sorry OP but I think your son deserved harsh punishment, and most likely the firing will stand.

[North Beach Person]

I don't think the teacher is the OP's son, I think her school age som was interviewed about the firing.

Dumb move on the teacher's part, likely violated 5 or 6 mandatory guidelines. Would have been fired or suspended in a lot of systems. Either that or made an administrator, but that's usually for teachers fooling around with a student or stealing.

[sunnyskies1]

Thanks North Beach, I see that now.

[bulldogrsp61]

Originally Posted by sunnyskies1

Actually it is a pretty big offense. We are thinking of it from an adult perspective. This was an incident in a school with children. Just because we don't find it offensive (which I do, Jackass is NOT watched in my home, even by my husband) doesn't mean another CHILD isn't going to find it shocking or offensive. I don't think it's okay to sit back and excuse the behavior because it is the norm for most teenagers. That child obviously was put into a very uncomfortable position. By a teacher's actions. It wasn't a miscommunication or misinterpretation, it was a bad judgement call. Sounds like he was trying to be the cool teacher.

As for the computer usage form, I had to sign that when I was a substitute and knew what it meant. It meant I could have been fired if I did something as foolish as searching the c-d forums when I subbed. I had to get administration permission to use the computer for my grad school work (during planning periods and study halls ONLY) when I was a substitute. As a teacher I have to screen videos very carefully, and make certain of their rating before I show them. That is just teaching 101.

I am sorry OP but I think your son deserved harsh punishment, and most likely the firing will stand.

LOL .. read my above post and re-think your stance before you get fired.

Should Mr. Poston be disciplined? Sure. But fired?!? Come on now.

This is as much about 'acceptable' and 'normal' and the modern definitions therein as anything.

Why is it unacceptable for one student to show her ankle or even wear shorts or a skirt and it is ok for another female student to wear shorts? What happens when the first girl is offended because a TEACHER wears a skirt or even slacks that show her bare ankle? Or what if that teacher shows an image of a woman in a skirt?

If we're going to be strict let's be strict. But don't fain strict policy agreement only when it is convenient.

Again .. a lack of common sense says fire them all.

[sunnyskies1]

Originally Posted by bulldogrsp61

LOL .. read my above post and re-think your stance before you get fired.

Should Mr. Poston be disciplined? Sure. But fired?!? Come on now.

This is as much about 'acceptable' and 'normal' and the modern definitions therein as anything.

Why is it unacceptable for one student to show her ankle or even wear shorts or a skirt and it is ok for another female student to wear shorts? What happens when the first girl is offended because a TEACHER wears a skirt or even slacks that show her bare ankle? Or what if that teacher shows an image of a woman in a skirt?

If we're going to be strict let's be strict. But don't fain strict policy agreement only when it is convenient.

Again .. a lack of common sense says fire them all.

A reprimand would be appropriate if it were indeed questionable material. However the movie Jackass is not questionable material, it is inappropriate.

In the school where I subbed you cannot show a movie unless you have first proved the educational value of the film, you have to have a learning objective for the children in watching the film. Then, if it is a film with any hint of a controversy to it you have to send home a permission slip for students to watch it. If the slip is not signed the kids don't watch the movie. Also, any movie rated R has to be approved by administration (they watch it) AND have a permission slip.

Teachers do not show movies for the fun of it.

In the school I am at (elementary) it has to be rated G. No exceptions.