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Old 12-11-2013, 12:14 AM
 
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Hard to believe he was trying to go right to avoid hitting you, did he have his right blinker on to turn right? Either way, like it says, if you're on far left lane turning left, stay in left lane; vice versa for right lane and turning right. I would think he'd be at fault, because you were in your lane, and he was not entirely in his lane. Keep us updated, I'd like to see how this pans out!
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Old 12-11-2013, 07:16 AM
 
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I've never seen the situation with a two lane left turn and there wasn't a proper arrow light. I'd say there was a screw up with the signals if both traveling and across road had green lights. IF the guy on taking the right had a green light, he should have stayed in his lane and he was at fault. With an arrow, you are supposed to have right of way. If it is a solid green, you must yield.

There is an intersection...... Hollywood/52 in Goose Creek that gives a green arrow light to take a left (one lane) but then you have to merge right into traffic that is already traveling on that road. Just because you have the green arrow doesn't give you the permission to change lanes into cars traveling onto that road already. There is a merging lane at that intersection. It is the worst designed intersection ever.
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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I've never seen the situation with a two lane left turn and there wasn't a proper arrow light. I'd say there was a screw up with the signals if both traveling and across road had green lights. IF the guy on taking the right had a green light, he should have stayed in his lane and he was at fault. With an arrow, you are supposed to have right of way. If it is a solid green, you must yield.

There is an intersection...... Hollywood/52 in Goose Creek that gives a green arrow light to take a left (one lane) but then you have to merge right into traffic that is already traveling on that road. Just because you have the green arrow doesn't give you the permission to change lanes into cars traveling onto that road already. There is a merging lane at that intersection. It is the worst designed intersection ever.
This is a very common situation. When I leave my golf club there is traffic light. The opposing traffic is coming out of a shopping center. The road we are turning onto is a two lane each direction road. I am making a right hand turn. Many of those coming out of the shopping center make a quick left and could care less about me making a right when I believe I have the right of way. Few can make that left and hold themselves in the left lane.

I was taught cars going straight have the right of way That one is obvious. Cars making right hand turns are next. Cars making left turns are last.

I have seen two lane roads with small dashed lines when curving/bending into a two lane road at a traffic light. The lines are saying OK people stay in lane. I have never seen such at a 90* turn.
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Old 12-11-2013, 02:44 PM
 
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This is a very common situation. When I leave my golf club there is traffic light. The opposing traffic is coming out of a shopping center. The road we are turning onto is a two lane each direction road. I am making a right hand turn. Many of those coming out of the shopping center make a quick left and could care less about me making a right when I believe I have the right of way. Few can make that left and hold themselves in the left lane.

I was taught cars going straight have the right of way That one is obvious. Cars making right hand turns are next. Cars making left turns are last.

I have seen two lane roads with small dashed lines when curving/bending into a two lane road at a traffic light. The lines are saying OK people stay in lane. I have never seen such at a 90* turn.
Which is a common situation? Two lanes in each direction is different than a 2 lane left turn though. Is that what you mean? In Summerville there is a perfect example. There is an intersection coming out of the Kohls shopping area in which Cracker Barrel will be on the left and a gas station on your right. When you turn left....it is a two lane left hand turn that is clearly marked.

Arrows stop lights should always dictate right away. If you get a left or right arrow, you have the right of way. Solid green light is when you have to be more concerned with navigating the right of way.
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Old 12-11-2013, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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Which is a common situation? Two lanes in each direction is different than a 2 lane left turn though. Is that what you mean? In Summerville there is a perfect example. There is an intersection coming out of the Kohls shopping area in which Cracker Barrel will be on the left and a gas station on your right. When you turn left....it is a two lane left hand turn that is clearly marked.

Arrows stop lights should always dictate right away. If you get a left or right arrow, you have the right of way. Solid green light is when you have to be more concerned with navigating the right of way.
I do not see it so much has how many lanes but who has the right of way. Forget arrows, etc. Two cars approach an intersection. Both want to turn on to a double lane road and end up going the same direction. One car going right, the other car going left. Both have a green light. Which car has the right of way?

The OP wants us to say both can turn at the same time as long as the car turning right stays in the right lane and the car turning left (her) stays in the left lane. In her case the car turning right did not turn tight into the right lane but moved left. Thus they collided.

I say the car turning right had the right of way even if it strayed/moved to the left lane. I say the OP is at fault.

When friends from Boston come to visit I tell them one thing about driving here. I say do not pull left turns in front of on coming traffic especially when a light turns green. People here do not expect you to do so as they have the right of way. In Boston one prepares for such. Here they do not. They will hit you and you will wonder why they were not paying attention to your MAholedriver move left turn in front of them......LOL

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Old 12-12-2013, 06:00 AM
 
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I do not see it so much has how many lanes but who has the right of way. Forget arrows, etc. Two cars approach an intersection. Both want to turn on to a double lane road and end up going the same direction. One car going right, the other car going left. Both have a green light. Which car has the right of way?

The OP wants us to say both can turn at the same time as long as the car turning right stays in the right lane and the car turning left (her) stays in the left lane. In her case the car turning right did not turn tight into the right lane but moved left. Thus they collided.

I say the car turning right had the right of way even if it strayed/moved to the left lane. I say the OP is at fault.

When friends from Boston come to visit I tell them one thing about driving here. I say do not pull left turns in front of on coming traffic especially when a light turns green. People here do not expect you to do so as they have the right of way. In Boston one prepares for such. Here they do not. They will hit you and you will wonder why they were not paying attention to your MAholedriver move left turn in front of them......LOL
You should always be a defensive driver. I have a new driver so I'm pretty much up on the right-of-way rules/laws. Turning left onto oncoming traffic is definitely a no-no but that should never occur if you have a left arrow green light.
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Old 12-13-2013, 05:40 AM
 
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I was hoping to get a more definitive answer here. There are lots of opinions spread across the board. Is anyone here a police officer or a lawyer who could give an authoritative response?
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Old 12-13-2013, 05:47 AM
 
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Well it seems that a lot of the opinions rest on whether both lights were green at the same time. Do you know that?
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Old 12-13-2013, 06:40 AM
 
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There were no lights at the intersection.
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Old 12-13-2013, 06:54 AM
 
Location: James Island, SC
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There were no lights at the intersection.
My mistake, though it would have helped if you had cleared this point up after the third post. I would think he had the right of way since he was making a right turn when you were making a left but I can understand your confusion and I'm not sure how a court would look at it.
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