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Old 01-29-2008, 12:07 PM
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Funny thing about the pit bull bans is that most places are finding that they are NOT working and are causing more moeny to come out of the tax payers pockets. A cheaper more reasonable solution is animal education and safety programs and enforcing and strengthening CURRENT animal cruelty laws.

Bans are bandaids. They only cover up an underlying problem and don't fix it.
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:40 PM
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I still don't understand why you bothered posting in this thread when you don't like pit bulls.

No, I don't like Pit Bulls and I don't care for Alligators either. I like to think I am a considerate neighbor and wouldn't keep a potentially dangerous animal in my home, or on my lawn where children or adults could possibly get hurt.
If my posting on this thread discourages someone from purchasing a Pit Bull I will be very happy.


Unconditional love from my dogs is a perfectly feasible risk to me. Anyone who chooses to live with an animal is taking a risk.

There are hundreds of loving dog breeds to choose from besides Pit Bulls!

Hell, we risk it driving on the roads every day.

One must work to earn a living and that usually involves driving, owning a pet is not a necessity, it's a personal choice and as I said above there are hundreds of loving dog breeds to choose from.

The risk you are running (for your dog's love) is the possibility of your dog seriously injuring someone and you facing a lawsuit. If I were permanently maimed/injured by someones Pit Bull, I would take the owner to the cleaners in court. There is so much statistical data, city and county bans, liability insurance refusals, regarding why you should not keep a Pit Bull as a pet, I cannot fathom why an intellligent person like yourself tries to promote the breed.
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:48 PM
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Funny thing about the pit bull bans is that most places are finding that they are NOT working and are causing more moeny to come out of the tax payers pockets. A cheaper more reasonable solution is animal education and safety programs and enforcing and strengthening CURRENT animal cruelty laws.

Bans are bandaids. They only cover up an underlying problem and don't fix it.

I beg to differ. Preceeding the Ban on Pit Bulls in Ontario Canada, the following information was submitted:


What is the success rate of pit bull bans?

Winnipeg:

Prior to ban, there were 30 pit bull attacks per year and 30 to 40 reported serious attacks of all dogs per year. In the past four years, there have been no pit bull attacks.

Kitchener-Waterloo:

Prior to the ban, in 1995 and 1996, there were 17 and 18 pit bull incidents, respectively. After the ban, there has been about one per year.
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:51 PM
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I appreciate your opinion although I REALLY do not agree with it.

I don't put my dogs in a position to be a hazard to anyone else. They are leashed at all times for their safety as well as others around.

I wish you'd look at people like me and call me a "responsible dog owner" and not a "pit bull owner."

Did you know the CDC has retracted their study on dogs involved in dog bites? A lot of people like to refer back to the study, but not only is it outdated, the CDC admits that the information provided does not provide a clear picture of the dogs *actually* involved because of breed misidentification.

"Pit Bull" is a blanket term used to cover several breeds: American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, and Staffordshire Terrier. Those three are distinct breeds. Additionally, there are other dogs commonly confused to be pit bulls when they are not. American Bulldogs and even Mastiffs are on that list. Here, we can play a little game. I have several different websites that you can go to try and identify breeds commonly referred to as pit bulls.

Pet Pitbull - Find the Pit Bull That's my favorite by far.

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CHAKO - Dog Lobby and Advocacy

And in response to your information that you provided regarding the breed bans in other locations working, scroll down to the bottom of this page: HugABull | Breed Specific Laws

For the link leery it says: "
1. Kitchener-Waterloo banned 'pit bulls' after 18 bites reported the previous year. During that same period, there were 85 bites attributed to German Shepherds.
2. In Perth County, Ontario, dog bite statistics compiled since January 2002 show just 1% of bites attributed to 'pit bulls'. One third of reported bites were caused by mixed breed dogs, and the top five biting breeds were, in order: Chow Chow, Jack Russell Terrier, Labrador Retriever, Dachshund, and Rottweiler.
3. Of the nearly 900 reports of bite incidents in Ottawa, Ontario for the last three years, only five were attributable to pit bulls. The largest number of bite incidents involved Black Labrador Retrievers and Golden Retrievers."

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Old 01-29-2008, 03:18 PM
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What's with the pissing contest? Pits aren't heavenly angels, not are they mass murderers. Just agree to disagree. I have worked with many a different breed in the rescue/vet care field, and the worst attack I ever had was from an American Water Spaniel. I love that you are advocating on behalf of this breed that gets a bad rap. Does this mean that people never get attacked--no. Does this mean that pit attacks are more likely to be reported due to said reputation--maybe. Either way, stop wasting so much energy on trying to prove the other wrong.
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What's with the pissing contest? Pits aren't heavenly angels, not are they mass murderers. Just agree to disagree. I have worked with many a different breed in the rescue/vet care field, and the worst attack I ever had was from an American Water Spaniel. I love that you are advocating on behalf of this breed that gets a bad rap. Does this mean that people never get attacked--no. Does this mean that pit attacks are more likely to be reported due to said reputation--maybe. Either way, stop wasting so much energy on trying to prove the other wrong.
It's not wasted energy if at least ONE person considers the information available to them and learns from it.
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Good luck with your rescue. Surely all Pits are not bad, but it would not be my personal breed of choice. There is a quiz online someplace that tests your ability to pick out the Pit Bull. I was VERY surprised at how many breeds (I had not heard of), look like Pits, but are not. I wonder how many of those dogs get a bad rap?

Ironically, I was checking out our local news homepage moments ago for the weather only to find a story about a 20 something paralyzed man that had four toes eaten off by is Pit puppy. I believe the guy was sleeping during this... You know how puppies like to chew. Eeew!

We have a lab and I know there are tons of horror stories about them and bites, but you just don't hear about them very often. We adore our lab and just wouldn't expect bad behavior from her, but you have to becareful with all breeds.
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I'm with you on this one, not against you. I don't think that the other poster will ever change though, so if it were me I would just stop replying to him. You are probably more patient than I am.
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Good luck with your rescue. Surely all Pits are not bad, but it would not be my personal breed of choice. There is a quiz online someplace that tests your ability to pick out the Pit Bull. I was VERY surprised at how many breeds (I had not heard of), look like Pits, but are not. I wonder how many of those dogs get a bad rap?

Ironically, I was checking out our local news homepage moments ago for the weather only to find a story about a 20 something paralyzed man that had four toes eaten off by is Pit puppy. I believe the guy was sleeping during this... You know how puppies like to chew. Eeew!

We have a lab and I know there are tons of horror stories about them and bites, but you just don't hear about them very often. We adore our lab and just wouldn't expect bad behavior from her, but you have to becareful with all breeds.
I think there's a bad egg in every bunch unfortunately with all the unscrupulous breeding going on.

The thing that bothers me about the story you read in your town is that they make it a point to mention the breed of the dog when it has absolutely no bearing on why it happened. All dogs have teeth and puppies like to chew. There are quite a few stories that slip under the radar if they aren't a breed that can be heavily sensationalized by the media. Hell, you heard about the Jack Russell that was in the news recently right? It sucks that any attacks happen, no matter the breed.
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I'm with you on this one, not against you. I don't think that the other poster will ever change though, so if it were me I would just stop replying to him. You are probably more patient than I am.
lol More flies with honey than vinegar. I try my best to do what I can. I just can't sit back as a breed advocate and not try to educate.
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