Pit Bull People in Charleston? (Parker, York: insurance, house, purchase)

[lpyrbby]

I'm the director for a new Pit Bull Rescue in the Charleston area and was hoping to connect with like-minded individuals. Anyone out there interested? My website link here on the forum is to the rescue's website if anyone is interested or wants to know more about us and what we do. Or, feel free to contact me directly.

I just found this forum today so hopefully I can be a more active part of it in time to come!

[Condorll]

Get rid of Pit Bulls, period. Not suitable for society.

[lpyrbby]

Please take the time to educate yourself before bashing a breed you know little about. I would provide you with links, but no sense in trying to educate those who aren't willing to learn.

There was no point to your reply. There was nothing in your response that contributed to my thread.

[eureka1]

You are performing a much-needed service. Wish I were close enough to help you. Don't let the uninformed discourage you. LouLou (my rescued pit) and I wish you the best.

[lpyrbby]

Originally Posted by eureka1

You are performing a much-needed service. Wish I were close enough to help you. Don't let the uninformed discourage you. LouLou (my rescued pit) and I wish you the best.

Thank you very much!

[Condorll]

Originally Posted by lpyrbby

Please take the time to educate yourself before bashing a breed you know little about. I would provide you with links, but no sense in trying to educate those who aren't willing to learn.

There was no point to your reply. There was nothing in your response that contributed to my thread.

I will provide YOU with links, educate yourself!

>>Of the breeds most often involved in incidents of sufficient severity
to be listed, pit bull terriers are noteworthy for attacking adults almost
as frequently as children. This is a very rare pattern: children are
normally at greatest risk from dogbite because they play with dogs more
often, have less experience in reading dog behavior, are more likely to
engage in activity that alarms or stimulates a dog, and are less able to
defend themselves when a dog becomes aggressive. Pit bulls seem to differ
behaviorally from other dogs in having far less inhibition about attacking
people who are larger than they are. They are also notorious for attacking
seemingly without warning, a tendency exacerbated by the custom of docking
pit bulls' tails so that warning signals are not easily recognized. Thus
the adult victim of a pit bull attack may have had little or no opportunity
to read the warning signals that would avert an attack from any other dog.<<

Pit Bulls have are notorious for attacking humans without warning. The stats confirm this. There has been an insane amount of violent Pit Bull attacks against humans as confirmed by this extensive report by breed.

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Atta...%20Clifton.pdf

>>Owning a Pit Bull Terrier may actually negate your home owner's insurance. Many insurance carriers today will not insurance home owners that own a dog of this breed. Be sure to check into this before you purchase your puppy and become attached to it. You may actually be required to purchase a separate insurance policy at a higher rate, if you own a Pit Bull Terrier.<<

Hmm, I wonder why insurers want nothing to do with Pit Bulls? They are usually quite profit hungry. Could it be that the "risk" is far greater than the reward (premium)?


What's the new fad going to be after Pit Bulls? Is it going to be stylish and cool to have an alligator on a leash?

[lpyrbby]

People get these dogs for the wrong reasons. I should say the WRONG people get these dogs for the wrong reason.

The Dog Breed Issue - National Canine Research Council

Lots of good information throughout that site.

Bad Rap : Bay Area Doglovers Responsible About Pitbulls

Lots of good information there too.

I don't need a pit bull to look mean, big and bad. Matter of fact, I'm middle class, almost 24. I have no reason to look that way. I own this breed because I love them. I have my own personal fan club!

Dog attacks should be looked at on an individual basis. This is not a breed problem. This is an owner problem. This is an education problem. This is a people problem.

[Condorll]

People don't bite People, Dogs do.

If the problem is with the People, it would be evident with higher dog bite statistics on other breeds, but that is not the case.

Fact is, a Pit Bull is a highly aggressive animal, a fighting dog.

Love 'em if you want to, but you may pay the price one day both financially and emotionally having to live with the fact that your dog maimed or killed someone.

Life is too short and too sweet to expose ourselves to unneccessary risk.

Good luck to you.

>>The pit bull's unusual breeding history has produced some bizarre behavioral traits, de- scribed by The Economist's science editor in an article published a few years ago, at the peak of a heated British controversy over dangerous dogs that saw the pit bull banned in England. First, the pit bull is quicker to anger than most dogs, probably due to the breed's unusually high level of the neurotransmitter L-tyrosine. Second, pit bulls are frighteningly tenacious; their attacks frequently last for 15 minutes or longer, and nothing—hoses, violent blows or kicks—can easily stop them. That's because of the third behavioral anomaly: the breed's remarkable insensitivity to pain. Most dogs beaten in a fight will submit the next time they see the victor. Not a defeated pit bull, who will tear into his onetime vanquisher. This, too, has to do with brain chemistry. The body releases endorphins as a natural painkiller. Pit bulls seem extra-sensitive to endorphins and may generate higher levels of the chemical than other dogs. Endorphins are also addictive: "The dogs may be junkies, seeking pain so they can get the endorphin buzz they crave," The Economist suggests.<<

[Condorll]

This is the most recent info I could find on Pit Bull Bans and/or restrictions and proposed bans as of 2005-2006. One would expect this trend to continue.

There is a very valid reason for these bans and the decisions to approve and enforce them were made by highly educated people (Judges) when presented with statistics and testimony from both sides of the argument.

Pit Bulls Bans
Ontario, Canada
Winnipeg, Manitoba
Australia
France
Norway
United Kingdom
Denmark
New Zealand
Delta, Utah
Independence, Missouri
Springville Utah
Miami Dade County, Florida
Council Bluffs Iowa
Royal City, Washington
Denver, Colorado
Prince Georges County, Maryland
Yonkers, New York
Springfield, Missouri
Eunumclaw, Washington
Garfield Heights, Ohio
Sparta Tennessee
Mevindale, Michigan

Proposed Bans as of 2005 (May already have legislation passed by now)
Oklahoma
Shelbyville, Tennessee
New York City, NY
Aurora, Colorado
Youngstown, Ohio
Richland, Washington
Tupelo, Mississippi
Parker, Colorado
Chicago, Illinois

A Pit Bull ban may very well be in the works in your city or county.

[lpyrbby]

I still don't understand why you bothered posting in this thread when you don't like pit bulls. This thread was not asking for opinions of the breed. This thread was looking for pit bull people in the area.

Now, in response to your " People don't bite People, Dogs do." I'm sure you've heard of the saying "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." The point to it being a people problem is that dogs as a whole need to be MANAGED and CONTROLLED. It is the owner's responsibility to manage and control their dog to prevent any accidents. It is the owner's responsibility to know the breed of dog they own. Just like it is a gun owner's responsibility to safely house and manage their firearms.

There are SO MANY factors that play into why dogs bite and why it SEEMS there is a problem with pit bulls. One, the type of people who think animal aggression equals human aggression. Pit bulls were bred to fight other dogs but to be exceptionally friendly with humans. People who don't research the breed don't know this though. They think that a dog that will fight in the pit must be one bad a$$ dog that will hurt other people. And you know what, they can. JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BREED. One thing about pit bulls is that they want nothing more than to make their people happy. So if it's owner is encouraging aggressive behavior, the dog is going to learn that it is okay. WITH ANY BREED. It just so happens a lot of macho wanna be's want these dogs for the wrong reason. That's not the dog's fault. Two, people don't know dog behavior. There are ALWAYS warning signs that a dog is going to bite. People generally ignore them or think its nothing. Three, people don't teach their children how to interact with dogs. Parent's need to teach their children safety precautions. Parent's need to teach their children how to behave around animals.

There are just so many things that play a big part and I just don't think it matters to you. You already have your mind made up.

" Life is too short and too sweet to expose ourselves to unneccessary risk."

Unconditional love from my dogs is a perfectly feasible risk to me. Anyone who chooses to live with an animal is taking a risk. Hell, we risk it driving on the roads every day. We sometimes even risk it with the people we are associated with.