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I don't think the problem with building roads is that folks fear it will bring more people -- it's how to pay for it. If we had buckets of money to throw at infrastructure then all this discussion wouldn't exist.
In the specific case of 526 and Johns Island, I think it is a fear that roads will bring more people. I know the CCL has that fear.
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Originally Posted by imagineskyscrapers
Why people think 'not building roads' prevents a population increase is beyond me.
It may not 'prevent population increase' but it can definitely slow down population growth.
I think those people just don't understand that the slowdown in population growth will be too little, too late -- it will only take place AFTER the quality of life has declined so far that it begins to affect housing demand. (In other words, the traffic gets so bad that developers don't find it economical to develop the land.) Sort of like how Berkeley County development is constrained by the capacity of I-26, while values inside Charleston are skyrocketing.
In the specific case of 526 and Johns Island, I think it is a fear that roads will bring more people. I know the CCL has that fear.
It may not 'prevent population increase' but it can definitely slow down population growth.
It doesn't slow population growth whatsoever. I saw that experiment tried in Austin and it failed miserably. Developers keep subdividing and developing, and people keep moving in. It happens every time.
It doesn't slow population growth whatsoever. I saw that experiment tried in Austin and it failed miserably. Developers keep subdividing and developing, and people keep moving in. It happens every time.
"slow population growth" means the population still grows, just at a slower rate than it otherwise would have.
furthermore, every situation is unique. I'm not saying your experience in Austin is irrelevant or invalid, but it cannot be applied uniformly to every road project.
it is the other side of the coin to the "Roads bring development" argument, where each situation is also unique. e.g., A new road to Johns Island is going to bring development. A new road between Rimini and Lonestar is not.
I think he was trying to be sarcastic in the response, claiming that the current loop was the one already intended.
I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I understood. You claimed the "loop" would be finished by extending 526 and connecting it with other roads. Chas4Life simply pointed out that the connection already exists. 17 connects in WA and MtP.
I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I understood. You claimed the "loop" would be finished by extending 526 and connecting it with other roads. Chas4Life simply pointed out that the connection already exists. 17 connects in WA and MtP.
right, but 17 can't be considered part of a "loop" because it goes through the middle of downtown.
the point of a "loop" is to encircle the downtown.
In the specific case of 526 and Johns Island, I think it is a fear that roads will bring more people. I know the CCL has that fear.
It may not 'prevent population increase' but it can definitely slow down population growth.
I think those people just don't understand that the slowdown in population growth will be too little, too late -- it will only take place AFTER the quality of life has declined so far that it begins to affect housing demand. (In other words, the traffic gets so bad that developers don't find it economical to develop the land.) Sort of like how Berkeley County development is constrained by the capacity of I-26, while values inside Charleston are skyrocketing.
Just remember that Berkeley county is growing northward ie, new Volvo plant. If I'm not mistaken, Berkeley county had more new home starts in 2015 than Chas county.
What SC doesn't have is enough gas tax revenue to keep up with its growth rate. The politicians won't raise taxes unless the voters demand better infrastructure. Sadly not enough areas are growing statewide for the critical mass among state representatives to approve even a modest fuel tax increase. Get used to it if you plan to live in SC.
it isnt impossible to build a tunnel underneath the harbor
Just wildly expensive and impractical
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