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Yeah and you can blame it on 20+ years worth of delays, lawsuits, and environment studies.
Seattle monorail checking in... same problem with suits and environmental studies. It ate up the entire budget for the project so of course nothing ended up happening.
Yeah and you can blame it on 20+ years worth of delays, lawsuits, and environment studies.
And on what can we blame the rest of the states serious inadequacies when it comes to infrastructure funding, especially on roads?
Look if SC was like NC and building ring roads around every city and investing mightily in other places like the 73/74 corridor and the recent revamp of the 40/77 interchange at Statesville, then you all would have a point that 526 should have already been built. But SC is not NC.
The fact of the matter is no one outside of Columbia sees anything really meaningful. Myrtle has its new bypass going for it but even that lacks the quality connection to the interstate system that it deserves. Charleston can't even get the funding to maintain what it has, hell I-26 is one of the worst interstates I've been on as far as outdated design, and the fact that y'all sit in traffic every other day for a wreck is the result of this. That and the fact that the 26/526/Rivers interchange is an absolute cluster and existing 526 should have been widened years ago. Mt Pleasant got lucky with its 17 redo. The one on the peninsula fixes storm water and looks pretty but does nothing for traffic.
Basically my point is that if no one is getting $ to fix roads in SC, then in no way should a billion be spent on this one section of road that saves 2 mins in commute time and helps evacuate those who failed to heed the experts' warnings every 20 years or so when a major hurricane hits here?
I'm glad we live in a society where people can challenge the logic of billion dollar projects that decimate wildlife habitats and decrease quality of life for those that actually LIVE along its path. Thankfully we do not just bulldoze everything beautiful without thinking about it first and going through the proper avenues to get it done even if it does take a little longer than expected. I want that bike lane across the river and it's way cheaper and easier and has much less of an impact than a new highway cutting across pristine marshes, but I still suffer from the same delays and studies and arguments as y'all do. I'll stop fighting 526 if y'all agree to stop fighting my bike lane, deal???
Basically my point is that if no one is getting $ to fix roads in SC, then in no way should a billion be spent on this one section of road that saves 2 mins in commute time and helps evacuate those who failed to heed the experts' warnings every 20 years or so when a major hurricane hits here??
The point is like you said, anything outside of Columbia lacks funding for roads. That means of they are going to let them do it. Why fight roads then turn around and say we don't have them. And if we lose that money they already if you looked have other billion dallor projects in columbia and greenville that the money is going to
And on what can we blame the rest of the states serious inadequacies when it comes to infrastructure funding, especially on roads?
Look if SC was like NC and building ring roads around every city and investing mightily in other places like the 73/74 corridor and the recent revamp of the 40/77 interchange at Statesville, then you all would have a point that 526 should have already been built. But SC is not NC.
I didn't say anything about other states. I said Charleston nimbys and lack of focus was the cause for the high cost today.
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Originally Posted by ElModChupaPollas
The fact of the matter is no one outside of Columbia sees anything really meaningful. [...] Basically my point is that if no one is getting $ to fix roads in SC, then in no way should a billion be spent on this one section of road [...]?
Again...I didn't say it should. I was merely pointing out a simple fact on why the road still hasn't been built since the rest of it's sections were finished in 1993.
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Originally Posted by ElModChupaPollas
I'm glad we live in a society where people can challenge the logic of billion dollar projects [...] I'll stop fighting 526 if y'all agree to stop fighting my bike lane, deal???
I didn't say anything about bike lanes, why are you so angry? Relax.
The point is like you said, anything outside of Columbia lacks funding for roads. That means of they are going to let them do it. Why fight roads then turn around and say we don't have them. And if we lose that money they already if you looked have other billion dallor projects in columbia and greenville that the money is going to
You know, some of you keep saying this, but do you have actual proof or is it conspiracy? Like actual quotes of officials saying "sorry every city that's not Columbia." The fact of the matter is SC is poor at funding, period. I posted plenty of stats here, post #28.
SC as a whole doesn't understand the concept of funding. SC is near dead last in it, even though we are the 23rd largest state and a top 10 fastest growing. Montana has more per capita spending than we do.
According to the FTA, Oregon is growing at similar rate and has 1 million less people, yet had $200M for funding in 2016. Utah hasn't even passed 3 million people yet and had $148M. SC? $48M. We ranked 29th out of 31 states with at least 3 million people. SC is 49% smaller than NC, but we've allocated only 16% of what they have. So even if Charleston is being slighted by the state, it doesn't matter much, because the state is still ridiculously cheap.
If you want something done to the roads and more money for Charleston, you gotta demand it and elect the people that are going to fix it and raise funding. Get the bums out of office, or threaten to and then attitudes will change.
And to be fair, regardless of who's growing the fastest, those projects in Greenville and Columbia are needed as well. The 26/126/20 junction in Cola should've been redone before Charleston started it's growth spurt. Now that highway being built through rural Florence, that's a different story. That's definitely a complete waste. Is that a even a truck route? Doesn't sound like it.
Well Well Well...Hope everyone is having a joyful Wednesday.
We have a NEW sheriff in town (Chairman of South Carolina Infrastructure Bank Board) Mr. John B. White from the Upstate.
He has close ties to the CCL and very OPPOSED to the EXT-526.
It's a wonderful day in SC y'all .
So the governor just had to pick an upstate person huh?
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