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Old 06-17-2017, 07:38 AM
 
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Charleston is still my home. I'll continue to read about it as I may return. Further, this issue apparently isn't limited to only Charleston, as you are the one who tried to use a potential limit in Cedar Rapids as your example.


Just....can't ......let....it......go.

Must have been an officer.
It's not a nationwide debate, it's my opinion, one of many that you don't agree with that for some reason you seem to be particularly hung up on. You clearly don't even know what a snout house is in the first place.

If you want to live in a treeless urban sprawl paradise of cheap houses and trailer parks, knock yourself out. Just don't loose too much sleep over the fact I don't share your vision.
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Old 06-17-2017, 08:06 AM
 
Location: South of Cakalaki
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Old 06-17-2017, 08:40 AM
 
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If you want to live in a treeless urban sprawl paradise of cheap houses and trailer parks, knock yourself out. Just don't loose too much sleep over the fact I don't share your vision.
I was discussing this with a friend the other day. I joked that I wish everyone would look at photos from the original construction of Byrnes Downs- its a West Ashley neighborhood known for small brick houses, being close to downtown, and a huge number of large oaks. When it was built it was as clear cut as any Summerville/Bees Ferry/outer Goose Creek neighborhood you would find. All it takes to solve the treelessness is a seedling (or a 5 gallon tree at Lowes) and a little less than a decade. Even putting in a 10' tree is much less expensive than it once was.
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Old 06-17-2017, 08:58 AM
 
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I was discussing this with a friend the other day. I joked that I wish everyone would look at photos from the original construction of Byrnes Downs- its a West Ashley neighborhood known for small brick houses, being close to downtown, and a huge number of large oaks. When it was built it was as clear cut as any Summerville/Bees Ferry/outer Goose Creek neighborhood you would find. All it takes to solve the treelessness is a seedling (or a 5 gallon tree at Lowes) and a little less than a decade. Even putting in a 10' tree is much less expensive than it once was.
The deal with snout houses though is that they're built with essentially no setback. The idea is that so much of the yard is consumed by the house and garage on such a small property, the garage has nowhere else to go.
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:54 AM
 
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The deal with snout houses though is that they're built with essentially no setback. The idea is that so much of the yard is consumed by the house and garage on such a small property, the garage has nowhere else to go.
They should usually have atleast 20' setback from easement to allow for front parking in most zoning scenarios. The one time they probably would not is if they are in a planned/high density/minimal lot line community. And locally when people go that tight they just switch to a condo/townhouse type of development. I see a lot of builders just skipping the garage outright and selling it as new urban or Charleston style.


I'm actually not always the greatest fan of alleys either since instead of cars in front you have everybody and all their clutter on an alley that they then treat as their entry. It also means additional concrete or asphalt.
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Old 06-17-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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They should usually have atleast 20' setback from easement to allow for front parking in most zoning scenarios. The one time they probably would not is if they are in a planned/high density/minimal lot line community. And locally when people go that tight they just switch to a condo/townhouse type of development. I see a lot of builders just skipping the garage outright and selling it as new urban or Charleston style.


I'm actually not always the greatest fan of alleys either since instead of cars in front you have everybody and all their clutter on an alley that they then treat as their entry. It also means additional concrete or asphalt.
I can't think of any houses with prominent garages anywhere in the Charleston area. Either they've been ordinanced away or they just don't seem to be that popular to begin with.
Skipping the garage makes some sense since most people use theirs just as a storage unit anyway.
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Old 06-17-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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I can't think of any houses with prominent garages anywhere in the Charleston area. Either they've been ordinanced away or they just don't seem to be that popular to begin with.
Skipping the garage makes some sense since most people use theirs just as a storage unit anyway.
I would never consider a home without a garage and I always park my car in my garage.
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Old 06-19-2017, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Savannah
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I would never consider a home without a garage and I always park my car in my garage.
Me too. But well... 90% of people don't. They fill their garage with stuff. No room for even 1 car in my experience.

I agree snouthouses or whatever, are not as inviting as homes of past ages. Sure m1 people can choose what they want... On the other hand, it's nice to also have neighborhood variety, and neighborhoods that put more focus on more trees and yard, and less pavement. For every beautiful Charleston or Savannah neighborhood, there will be a suburban expanse like Pooler, GA. Maybe there is space for both sides?
Only thing is, sprawl does like to grow past any confines that are planned. But oh well. That's local politics.
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