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New Yorkers sure, but you won’t find too many Californians here.
If you live far enough away where you can actually buy some land, you’re probably not going to be surrounded by many transplants.
Creoles (and Cajuns) are mainly located in south Louisiana. Ask any Louisianan and they'll tell you the northern part of the state is quite different than the southern part. It would be like someone thinking practically all of South Carolina were defined by Gullah culture.
Very interesting perspective since Mobile and New Orleans are very similar. Mobile has a Creole population and is home to the nation's first Mardi Gras; historically it had just as many outside influences as New Orleans and was under the jurisdiction of several nations. Mobile is arguably the city most similar to New Orleans in the U.S.
Atlanta is a Piedmont/Upper South city and wasn't part of the plantation economy in any real sense; it wasn't even a big city prior to the Civil War. In 1850 the city had just over 2500 people with less than 500 being slaves. Atlanta was founded by the Georgia Legislature about two decades before the Civil War as a railroad hub to link Savannah/coastal Georgia with the markets of the Midwest. Mobile, by contrast, was founded well over a century before Atlanta, actually imported lots of slaves, and its economy was much more agrarian in nature. Along with other Southern port cities, Mobile wasn't part of the plantation economy "in the distribution phase;" it was ground zero for the plantation economy. In 1860, about 21% of Fulton County's population was enslaved but the total county population was just under 15K people. In that same year, 25% of Mobile County's population was enslaved which equaled nearly 12K people--rivaling the total population of Fulton County. Atlanta and Mobile couldn't be more different in this regard. You can read more about Mobile's history here.
Originally from Mobile and have lived in south LA (near N.O.) for 30+ years. Although there are some similarities, such as architecture and Mardi Gras, Mobile and New Orleans are vastly different. Mobile is more conservative and Protestant. N.O. is more liberal than Mobile and primarily Catholic. The French influence today is much more obvious in N.O. Grew up in Mobile, not aware of a Creole population. Of course, Creoles are represented to a large extent in N.O.
According to Walter Edgar, SC's premier historian, and with a Friday SC Public Radio show ( noon), in Charleston County localsand natives still outnumber transplants. Where transplants outnumber locals occurs currently in only three counties in SC: Beaufort (where I live), Aiken and Horry(Myrtle Beach).
I hope it stays that way, frankly. Beaufort County is already " little Philly, Buffalo, Cleveland" etc.,( take your pick). You even see lots of plates from a Maine and CA ( wtf?). If one more old Yankee geezer gives me the evil eye, no smile, no charm or personality, etc. I'm gonna say somethin' rather unpleasant (cause I'm sick of it)!!!
I'm well-educated, sophisticated and well-travelled, but this Southerner is already eyeing the exits before much longer for a more authentic Southern town in the nearby mountains of GA or NC.
Transplants have been ruining the region in general for two generations. Only half, if that, seem to give back, volunteer, assimilate, learn to smile and give eye contact etc.
I overheard a couple with strong northern accents tell a server they’re from South Carolina. Within the next couple of sentences, the truth came out. They were from New York but now live in Hilton Head. Charleston does not have that northern transplant feel to it, but it has always had a certain amount of progressive influence.
According to Walter Edgar, SC's premier historian, and with a Friday SC Public Radio show ( noon), in Charleston County localsand natives still outnumber transplants. Where transplants outnumber locals occurs currently in only three counties in SC: Beaufort (where I live), Aiken and Horry(Myrtle Beach).
I hope it stays that way, frankly. Beaufort County is already " little Philly, Buffalo, Cleveland" etc.,( take your pick). You even see lots of plates from a Maine and CA ( wtf?). If one more old Yankee geezer gives me the evil eye, no smile, no charm or personality, etc. I'm gonna say somethin' rather unpleasant (cause I'm sick of it)!!!
I'm well-educated, sophisticated and well-travelled, but this Southerner is already eyeing the exits before much longer for a more authentic Southern town in the nearby mountains of GA or NC.
Transplants have been ruining the region in general for two generations. Only half, if that, seem to give back, volunteer, assimilate, learn to smile and give eye contact etc.
Technically speaking Walter Edgar may be right. My wife and I came here as transplants, but then starting spawning natives so we got statistically canceled out.
Technically speaking Walter Edgar may be right. My wife and I came here as transplants, but then starting spawning natives so we got statistically canceled out.
“We don’t mind folks from up north coming down here to live and bear children, but that don’t make them Southerners. After all, if your cat has kittens in the oven, that don’t make them biscuits.” ~ Firefly Moonshine
“We don’t mind folks from up north coming down here to live and bear children, but that don’t make them Southerners. After all, if your cat has kittens in the oven, that don’t make them biscuits.” ~ Firefly Moonshine
Statistically speaking anybody with a S.C. birth certificate is an SC native, thus provided it’s families moving to the area and not retirees, their SC born kids help cancel out the transplant parents on paper. Now if they go on to eat grits and watch college football is an entirely different story.
Statistically speaking anybody with a S.C. birth certificate is an SC native, thus provided it’s families moving to the area and not retirees, their SC born kids help cancel out the transplant parents on paper. Now if they go on to eat grits and watch college football is an entirely different story.
There are people who don't eat grits and watch college football?
Years back Snee Farm Golf Club had a Rebel's versus the Yankee's Golf Tournament. They had to stop it as they ran out of Rebel's....LOL
In some places, transplants outweigh natives. Maybe not at a Conservative Southern Baptist Church but more than likely at the newer, feel good, fast growing, non-denominational churches like Seacoast.
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So far still Southern however....
