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Old 03-18-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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You have no evidence that my 'excuse' hinders anything. I am not in law enforcement or a state politician.

I haven't make an excuse for anything. That is a baseless accusation.

If somebody doesn't see things the way that you do, you characterize it in a negative way.

My point is I don't see a correlation between domestic violence and what state a person lives in. It is related to other factors. That can not accurately be described as an 'excuse' for domestic violence.
Look I know math is hard. But statistics don't lie. Women in this state are mathematically, unequivocally, inarguably more likely to be victims of abuse. It has nothing to do with your interpretation. It has nothing to do with your opinion. It's a fact.

Does domestic violence happen in other places? Of course. Does that mean we should just accept it as a fact of life in SC? According to you, yes. Maybe we should stop cancer research while we're at it. After all, cancer happens everywhere. If you're living a healthy lifestyle you "should" be fine. So why bother?
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I work in a STEM field so I probably am at least as good at math as you are.

I get you like insulting people so I will not interact with you anymore.

In my view, you like to virtue signal and act like you are more virtuous than other people on here. That's the general approach by another person on this topic as well.

It is ok if you disagree with me but asserting that I'm making excuses for domestic violence is a smear.

Per capita crime stats are not a mathmatical probability of being a victim. You are much more likely to be a victim of a crime in more populated states because more populated states have a larger number of criminals. More sharks in the water means greater chance of being a victim. The number of people swimming in the area is irrelevant.

Also, as I've pointed out, probability of being a victim of domestic abuse depends on what kind of partner and family members you have. It doesn't make any sense to generalize everybody in a state has same probability of being a victim of domestic abuse regardless of what type of people they have in their home.

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Old 03-18-2018, 12:29 PM
 
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I work in a STEM field so I probably am at least as good at math as you are.

I get you like insulting people so I will not interact with you anymore.
When faced with facts you quit. Nice. How does that work for you in the STEM field?
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I think that's a matter of perspective. I mean there are a lot of things about SC that I'm not proud of, trust me. Just look at all the people on this board who can't accept that SC has real, actual problems without whining about all the problems that other states have. But, aside from the head in the sand mentality I see so prevalent here, there really are some positives. Weather is great as long as you're ok with the summer heat. Also, the history and culture is pretty unique. Restaurants are damn good. Beaches are some of the best (Botany Bay!).

All that said, are there better places? Without question. But, there are worse as well! Try living in the midwest. Or Texas! Barf!
I lived and visited both these places and find them to be exceptional places to live. How about we stop writing off large swarths of areas in the country?

Anyways the ranking isn't good, but there are still plenty of great places to live in South Carolina. One of our biggest problems is rural poverty.
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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There is actually more poor people living in the urban areas of the big cities in SC. Yet rural poverty is only poverty that gets mentioned on here.
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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I lived and visited both these places and find them to be exceptional places to live.
So have I. We'll agree to disagree.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I work in a STEM field so I probably am at least as good at math as you are.

I get you like insulting people so I will not interact with you anymore.

In my view, you like to virtue signal and act like you are more virtuous than other people on here. That's the general approach by another person on this topic as well.

It is ok if you disagree with me but asserting that I'm making excuses for domestic violence is a smear.

Per capita crime stats are not a mathmatical probability of being a victim. You are much more likely to be a victim of a crime in more populated states because more populated states have a larger number of criminals. More sharks in the water means greater chance of being a victim. The number of people swimming in the area is irrelevant.

Also, as I've pointed out, probability of being a victim of domestic abuse depends on what kind of partner and family members you have. It doesn't make any sense to generalize everybody in a state has same probability of being a victim of domestic abuse regardless of what type of people they have in their home.
I have to agree with this. For instance according to this chart Alaska is ranked the second worst in the country for female murders but there were only a total of seven murders. Alaska's population is around 730,000, and 355,658 are women then seven out of 355,658 is not a lot. It's bad and can be better but not an epidemic.

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Old 03-18-2018, 01:04 PM
 
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The number of people swimming in the area is irrelevant.
That's not how math works. You telling me that the probabilities are the same for one winning lottery ticket for 10 people as it is 10 lottery tickets for 10 people?

You must be a Clemson grad.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:05 PM
 
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I have to agree with this. For instance according to this chart Alaska is ranked the second worst in the country for female murders but there were only a total of seven murders. Alaska's population is around 730,000, and 355,658 are women then seven out of 355,658 is not a lot. It's bad and can be better but not an epidemic.
Then you need to revisit the definition of "per capita".
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Old 03-18-2018, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I have to agree with this. For instance according to this chart Alaska is ranked the second worst in the country for female murders but there were only a total of seven murders. Alaska's population is around 730,000, and 355,658 are women then seven out of 355,658 is not a lot. It's bad and can be better but not an epidemic.
Lisa ,

Thanks for posting that.

That illustrates what I'm talking about perfectly. Alaska had 7 female homicides, one of the lowest numbers of total female homicides for a state, but the per capita stat makes it look like the 2nd worst state in the country for female homicides.

The number of Alaska's female homicides was 11.4 percent of SC's number that year.

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