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Old 05-16-2018, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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That is too forward thinking for this area. Why build something like for the future when it would have limited effect on the present?

Instead, why don't we wait until it becomes a necessity, but the land is no longer available to build the outer beltway. Then we can use that as an excuse.
EXACTLY!

Although, the problem really is that by the time these projects go from planning to building phases they are already inadequate
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:16 AM
 
Location: TPA
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2 1/2 hours to get from MtP to North Charleston today. Surprisingly worse than yesterday. Also seems like less police out than yesterday. Drivers are getting VERY aggressive. Hoping for good news later today from the DOT.
Everybody just has to be patient. It's either go ahead and get it speedy fixed now, or just leave it be, let it potentially collapse and risk potential injuries or fatalities, and then have the entire span closed for months, like 85 in Atlanta.

These things happen. Some roads in Hawaii are covered in lava. SF lost freeways after the earthquake. People need to relax, this isn't permanent, plus it could be much worse. At least one side of 526 is open.

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Good post Rocky..

Our DOT needs to improve,,,,A LOT!!!

Our roads SUCK out loud!
Can't put it all on the DOT. Not sure why people think it's as simple as the DOT clearing trees and pouring concrete.

- DOT
- Nimbys
- geography
- taxes and construction costs
- environmentalists
- local attitudes
- years of redundant studies
- developers and government
- past poor design decisions
- etc

When building anything in Charleston, especially a road, you have to go through hurdles upon hurdles. SCDOT didn't just decide to not finish 526. And the state can't just build a new freeway, even if the money is there. A ferry from downtown to Patriots Point would be cool, but you know certain groups will just try to get it consumed in litigation until no one cares anymore.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:51 AM
 
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That is too forward thinking for this area. Why build something like for the future when it would have limited effect on the present?

Instead, why don't we wait until it becomes a necessity, but the land is no longer available to build the outer beltway. Then we can use that as an excuse.
That’s how all cities and states operate. It gets expensive maintaining infrastructure that’s not needed for the next 50 years.
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Outskirts of Gray Court, and love it!
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It seems they actually are opening the port earlier 3am to help traffic. However, at 8am there was still a full stream of trucks entering 17 from 526. Not sure if the trucking companies are fully utilizing this early window.
Thats odd. I have 3 drivers here now that said they couldnt get into the ports until after 9 because of the back up at the gate. One of them is reading over my shoulder and says nope, not at Wando port.
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:51 PM
 
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I think Billy Swails is two lanes.
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Old 05-16-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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I think Billy Swails is two lanes.
It is.
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Old 05-16-2018, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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It is.
Haven't even broken ground and it's undersized. It's empty land, should be 5 lanes.
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Old 05-16-2018, 01:27 PM
 
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Haven't even broken ground and it's undersized. It's empty land, should be 5 lanes.
That would make it a 2 lane that turns to a 4 lane that turns to a 2 lane and that would be dumb and people would point and laugh at us.
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Old 05-16-2018, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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That would make it a 2 lane that turns to a 4 lane that turns to a 2 lane and that would be dumb and people would point and laugh at us.
It would be 2 lanes going to 5 (shiny new) lanes going to 3 lanes going to 4 lanes going to 5 lanes. (if my memory is good)

Dumb is to build it, then rebuild it 3 years later.
People already point and laugh at me.... I'm good with that

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Old 05-16-2018, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Thats odd. I have 3 drivers here now that said they couldnt get into the ports until after 9 because of the back up at the gate. One of them is reading over my shoulder and says nope, not at Wando port.
That's probably why it was underutilized this morning, poor communication by the state.
Go to the 'Client Advisory' on the SC Ports website. Open 3am today, tomorrow, and Friday.
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