Safe areas North of Calhoun? (Charleston, Hampton: low income, real estate, for rent)

[RyeS]

I want to buy a home/condo in the next year and would like something downtown. Unfortunately I won't be able to afford anything South of Calhoun so I was thinking "up and coming" neighborhoods north of Calhoun. Are any neighborhoods/streets coming along quicker than others that I should check out?

[DJShymansky]

Keep an eye on Elliotborough and Eastside, with regard to future renovations and improvements. I'd go further north if I were you, i.e. Hampton Park and Wagener Terrace, up near the Citadel.

[Geechie North]

Crime everywhere in SC, but since crime and poverty are correlated strongly, there's more N. Of Calhoun.

It's called "gentrification"- the new, upscale face of racism.

You don't fix any social problems- you just force the "undesirables" (you can tell them by the melanin concentration in their skin) out. By pricing them out.

[Rggr]

Originally Posted by Geechie North

Crime everywhere in SC, but since crime and poverty are correlated strongly, there's more N. Of Calhoun.

It's called "gentrification"- the new, upscale face of racism.

You don't fix any social problems- you just force the "undesirables" (you can tell them by the melanin concentration in their skin) out. By pricing them out.

What you really should do is not move there, but give the neighborhood residents the money to fix up their houses (which would drive up their taxes anyway), or stay just where you belong because that shows how open-minded you are.

[Geechie North]

Originally Posted by Rggr

What you really should do is not move there, but give the neighborhood residents the money to fix up their houses (which would drive up their taxes anyway), or stay just where you belong because that shows how open-minded you are.

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It would not drive up their taxes to the point of shutting them out IF you also invested in education (for everyone), got some public transport so the present residents could obtain employment, AND subsidized the improvements by levying a tax on the entire Trident Area.

Of course, that's Communism to some, except when the state of South Carolina does it by building bridges to formerly pristine Barrier Islands so some well connected developer can build some more condos.
Then it's called being "Business Friendly".

[Charleston Class]

Check out the Wagener Terrace area.. The area normally has several homes for rent and/or sale. Anything located off "Tenth Avenue" is considered WT. I'm not sure of your price range, but considering Charleston real estate, "reasonable" is a relative term. My grandparents have lived in the neighborhood for over 30 years and it is still the same; quiet and a desirable location downtown. It has a sense of community and has a mix of young college students, middle-aged folks with families, and the retirees like my grandparents. Check it out, I think you'll like it.

[Rggr]

Originally Posted by Geechie North

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It would not drive up their taxes to the point of shutting them out IF you also invested in education (for everyone), got some public transport so the present residents could obtain employment, AND subsidized the improvements by levying a tax on the entire Trident Area.

We're talking about a private citizen purchasing a home; it's not their responsibility or within their ability to take care of the things you mention. Does the seller of the home bear any responsibility? Should they only sell to people from the neighborhood at a price they can afford or should they sell it for what they can get?

Yes, the schools need work; I agree with you on that.

The public transportation is also poor, but what's there is not used. In addition, to get from Romney St. to Broad St. is only about 3 miles, and it's only about 5 miles to Park Circle from there. There are buses, though admittedly not a great service, to run to outer parts of town.

Originally Posted by Geechie North

.Of course, that's Communism to some, except when the state of South Carolina does it by building bridges to formerly pristine Barrier Islands so some well connected developer can build some more condos.
Then it's called being "Business Friendly".

"Business friendly" brings business which can then employ the people we're discussing. Again, that's a very different issue from a private citizen purchasing a home.

[Geechie North]

So why is a "Business Friendly"state like SC almost dead last in every measure of economic well being for the entire community (not the anointed few) vs those states which have programs that help the community as a whole?

I suggest you read "The Politics Of Rich and Poor" by Kevin Phillips for the answer.

As for "seller's responsibility,", how about government's responsibility to the community? Of course, when that community is prevented from voting......

I'd reseach the white flight out of the downtown which happened after WWII and the economic starvation of those areas that became predominently black.

Also, are you seriously suggesting that using state $$ to build a bridge so some clown can cut down the maritime subtropical forest and put up condos for grannies from Ashatabula is a better investment than putting some $$ into the worst school system in the US??

[Rggr]

Originally Posted by Geechie North

So why is a "Business Friendly"state like SC almost dead last in every measure of economic well being for the entire community (not the anointed few) vs those states which have programs that help the community as a whole?

I suggest you read "The Politics Of Rich and Poor" by Kevin Phillips for the answer.

As for "seller's responsibility,", how about government's responsibility to the community? Of course, when that community is prevented from voting......

I'd reserach the white flight out of the downtown which happened after WWII and the starvation of economic those areas that became predominently black.

This thread was about a private citizen's desire to purchase a home. The government's responsibility to the community is irrelevant to that. You said that the person purchasing the home is involved in gentrification, or quiet racism, and supported it by your claims about the government. Again, the two are separate issues, and if the private citizen were racist, I doubt they would move into the areas being discussed. By the way, there are many new homes in the area that are reserved for people who qualify as low income.

The seller, in this case, is complicit in what you call racism by agreeing to sell. Do they have any responsibility? Don't respond with an answer about the government because this would be a deal between two private parties.

As for the other points, do you think SC is the only state that tries to attract business? A lot of the big industry has been located in the bigger cities, they still have the poor and still have complaints about gentrification.

Where did the comment about the vote come from? The residents of these areas are free to vote and have their own representatives on council.

[OrangeCountyGirl]

Oh my god, you guys.

Please do not ever invite me to any of your parties.