I wish they would ban stryofoam in Charleston! (York, North: home, contractors)

[OrangeCountyGirl]

Originally Posted by OleTomCat

I wish they would ban people coming from somewhere else and trying to make Charleston like where they left.....

I've never seen such a small minded group of people.

[OleTomCat]

Originally Posted by Geechie North

From it:
Half-life of Strontium 90 is 29 years, Tom. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

Hmm, lets see 2007-1970= 37, well I guess that isn't an issue.

I really wish you would get out of this ancient history.

YOU DON"T LIVE HERE ANY MORE STOP BASHING US.

[Geechie North]

Tom,

I'm not bashing you, or your town.

This site is called "City Data". As I understand the purpose is to discuss info re: various cities/states. It's interesting, from my perspective, to see the sameness of the questions that are asked, and their parroting of the popular culture/C Of C jive. This applies to not only the SC threads, but to most others also.
That's not all bad, but it does show the need for perople who have knowledge (unlike the mindless cheerleading you get from a real estate agent) of specific areas to share.

Charleston- like everywhere has positives and negatives. The point is to share what's real-beyond the hype- of an area so people can have an objective view of what's truly there, and not there.

I'd suggest you look-up what "Half-Life" means.

Here are some sites on the so-called "SRS":

Savannah River Site - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Radioactive Waste Piling Up at Savannah River Site

[wildwoodflower]

yes, i can't believe the direction some seem to want to take this thread. no i am not "from here" i just moved here. and not from california. or even the west. and no, we did not seek out this city, it sort of found us at this point in our lives. that said... i believe issues concerning our planet and our well being as a whole is something that should be address everywhere. it has nothing to do with changing a locations cultural, political or individual nature. seriously. how closed minded of one to think so. are you saying since it has been scientifically proven bad (styrofoam) and there are better safer cleaner ways of serving food or anything else, charleston should not be held to do its part in the global commuity to clean up our home? to make it safer and better for our children? to be responsible as consumers? ridiculous on so many levels. i have lived alot of places in this country. alot of very different areas all over... and no place i have ever been used so much styrofoam as a community. i stick to it. it is disgusting on so many levels. educate yourselves, be aware of how your actions effect the health of others and your planet, and do your part to take care of the earth as a whole. it has nothing to do with trying to change charleston to be like another area... it should be a concern of everyone, everywhere. you should want to make a change to better your world with an issue that is undeniable like this. if not, there is somehting seriously wrong with you as a human being.

[SCBeaches]

I don't use styrofoam and don't like to drink from it. You're right, some restaurants still use it here....mostly fastfood, which I don't eat at (except when my grandson is in town visiting). It is not good for the environment at all, but they prob. still use it because of economics = cheaper to use. Don't they use styrofoam at all the chains, in all states? I would think that if they use it in one state, the same chain would use it in all states. There is a new material some restaurants are using for carry out boxes which looks like styrofoam, but doesn't have the non-biodegradable chemicals in the material....it's supposed to be a material much more environmentally friendly.

Do you drive a hybid? Here's my pet peeve...people who drive big SUV's, but say they are "green-minded". Talk about pollutants! I drive a small car, but my next one will be a hybrid.

[Geechie North]

What we've seen over the last decade is a complete abrogation of the duty to protect public health at the Fed. level.
In other words, the EPA has been bought, as many other agencies have, by business interests.

Because of this, states, and often municipalities, have been at the forefront of regulating/banning environmentally hazardous materials and other related issues. Here's a partial list of cities where styrofoam is banned:

Styrofoam food packaging banned in Oakland

South City the latest to follow suit on Styrofoam ban - Examiner.com

Office of Sustainability and the Environment - Business: Container Ban - City of Santa Monica

[wildwoodflower]

Originally Posted by SCBeaches

Do you drive a hybid? Here's my pet peeve...people who drive big SUV's, but say they are "green-minded". Talk about pollutants! I drive a small car, but my next one will be a hybrid.

i drive an suv but i plan on selling it. i needed in in northern new england... a 4x4 drive suv which had high ground clearance because otherwise there was no way i could drive up my road and driveway...in summer or winter with the feet of snow. we had to remove it ourselves, class 4 road, very rural location. and i need 3 carseats in a car. but down here i don't think i will need the 4x4 drive. but i have only been here a few weeks so i still have it. and it is paid for, which is nice, lol.

oh...and chains. some states have banned styrofoam so chains don't use them. in new england where i was last they use cardboard and waxed cardboard for cups. in the same chains that here use stryofoam. and nice resturaunts give to go boxes which are stryofoam here too. coffee cups, etc. and when i go out with the kids, they are always brought a stryofoam cup...and we have been to many nice places where this surprised me! now i know to ask for something else instead for them.

[OleTomCat]

Originally Posted by Geechie North

Tom,

I'd suggest you look-up what "Half-Life" means.

Yes I know what Halflife means, and if I must I will give you a nuclear physics leason on radioactive decay.

Since you brought up Sr-90, this is what I found on it, not using wikipedia:

As strontium-90 decays, it releases radiation and forms yttrium-90 (Y-90), which in turn decays to stable zirconium. The half-life of Sr-90 is 29.1 years, and that of Yttrium-90 is 64 hours. Sr-90 emits moderate energy beta particles, and Y-90 emits very strong (energetic) beta particles. Strontium-90 can form many chemical compounds, including halides, oxides, and sulfides, and moves easily through the environment.

Everyone is exposed to small amounts of strontium-90, since it is widely dispersed in the environment and the food chain. Dietary intake of Sr-90, however, has steadily fallen over the last 30 years with the suspension of nuclear weapons testing.

When people ingest Sr-90, about 70-80% of it passes through the body. Virtually all of the remaining 20-30% that is absorbed is deposited in the bone. About 1% is distributed among the blood volume, extracellular fluid, soft tissue, and surface of the bone, where it may stay and decay or be excreted.

All of this above may lead to increases in cancers of the bones including leukemia.

From the US EPA web page, NOT Wikipedia.

[Geechie North]

Okay, he said (ignoring the Wikipedia thing). But then if we are to believe the empirical data on low-level radiation ingestion given by the EPA scientists in "Deadly Deceit":

OVERVIEW: "Deadly Deceit, Low-Level Radiation, High-Level Coverup"

Should we not then be concerned about the isotopes so ubiquitous in our food chain?

And is this not a valid subject in an area like Charleston, downwind and in an aquifer impacted by one of the largest secret isotope emitters in the world?

[OleTomCat]

I am sorry, but anything that puts such a sensationalized and obviously biased title as 'Deadly Deceit' is not to be trusted in my opinion. Someone who writes like that has an agenda. Charleston had many nuclear reactors in it up until 1995, and there are still two here, along with other forms of nuclear material. This area is one of the most monitored areas in the country; I know I used to work on several of those reactors. If the SRS was the 'largest secret isotope emitter in the world' I and many of my former colleagues would have know about it.