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Old 11-18-2008, 10:53 AM
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Getting back to the original post for a moment, if I may...

Is this just a vent in general about the use of styrofoam, or do you really think Charleston (or as GN says, all of SC) is the central culprit in the styrofoam usage conspiracy? I have, on occasion been granted permission to cross the state line and venture into the great unknown that is sometimes described as "The Rest of The Country" or more frequently on here, "Where the Civilized World Resides" and I'm afraid I can report use of the dreaded styrofoam in other locales. I am remiss in not recalling exact dates and street addresses, but I've seen it from Maine to New York, Virginia to the Keys, Hawaii, San Diego, and even in Alaska.

If it bothers you that someone uses this product, then educate yourself on the alternatives as well as the price per unit of replacement items versus styrofoam. Present your facts to the store manager or to the chain's home office and try to effect a change rather than ranting on the forum about how this is a local issue. Make a difference, not an argument.

That will be 2 cents please.
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:21 AM
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oh...and chains. some states have banned styrofoam so chains don't use them. in new england where i was last they use cardboard and waxed cardboard for cups.

Um, I live in New England and there's PLENTY of styrofoam being used here.
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:58 PM
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i've just moved from rural new englad, in a pretty "green" social responsible area...and local chains there, same as i see here, do n ot use stryofoam.

i did not say anything about it not being used at all in some other areas..just saying since moving here i say it a whole lot more...ALOT more.

and i do not use it, we do bring our own cups, i have written letters and called chains. so don't assume you know anything about my own persoanl use of styrofoam, and don't assume i am just ranting about it. yes it bothers me, and yes i do what i can do about it. mostly my post was a fusterated observation. we are a very pro active family, and we do do our part to try to better what we can. so get off your soap box and don't assume. how silly of you. seriously some people on this board need to get over themselves and see beyond themselves at the big picture. why attack for the sack of arguing. observe, learn, grow, move foward. i di not say charleston is to blame for the whole probvlem. just that the use here of the terrible product is ALOT widerspread. yes it bothers me. yes i do what i can about it. yes i know it bothers others too. people w ho are from here. people who are not. it doesn't matter. it is not an attack on charleston by any means. it is an envionrmental issue, not a debate about what makes charleston charleston. it has nothing to do with that.
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Old 11-18-2008, 04:59 PM
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There is nothing like getting a cold beer out of the old styrofoam cooler at the beach then fixing the kids a sandwich on good ole styrofoam plates then when the picnic is over head out on the water to catch some waves on a nice styrofoam boogie board..
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:26 PM
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Flower, please slow down. You're typing way too fast. I started my post out with a question. I suppose I got an answer. I don't "attack for the sack of arguing". I don't own a soapbox and I don't even know who to borrow one from. (I wouldn't dare borrow Elvis' styrofoam cooler to stand on. Them things are notorious for blowing out.)

Seriously though, I'm glad you are doing your part to help the environment. My wife makes me recycle all my beer cans. She even takes the caps off everything else I throw in the recycling bin. (She doesn't believe I'm providing job security for the folks at the recycling plant by letting them take the tops off.)
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I am sorry, but anything that puts such a sensationalized and obviously biased title as 'Deadly Deceit' is not to be trusted in my opinion. Someone who writes like that has an agenda. Charleston had many nuclear reactors in it up until 1995, and there are still two here, along with other forms of nuclear material. This area is one of the most monitored areas in the country; I know I used to work on several of those reactors. If the SRS was the 'largest secret isotope emitter in the world' I and many of my former colleagues would have know about it.
Tom,

Those "someones" are EPA scientists who blew the cover off the secrecy and lies which DOE, DOD and the contractors used to cover-up the info info from the area that's both "the most monitored" and the "largest secret isotope generator" in the world.

I encourage anyone interested in the scientific reality behind the poisoning of our eco-system to read this seminal work.
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:32 PM
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There is nothing like getting a cold beer out of the old styrofoam cooler at the beach then fixing the kids a sandwich on good ole styrofoam plates then when the picnic is over head out on the water to catch some waves on a nice styrofoam boogie board..
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Wildwood,

Good, or bad, this type of post is the heart of South Carolina's environmental ethic.

FYI,

Recycling:

It took Hugo in '89 to pull SC, kicking and screaming, into acting like a big kid. Here's the background:

Solid Waste and Recycling

Note the date vis-a-vis Hugo (Sept, 1989);

"Recycling began as a pilot program with sorting conducted at the Public Works Headquarters in 1989. Curbside recycling began in 1991, and the original solid waste shredding facility was retrofitted to a recovered material processing facility."

Point is if you're looking for environmental consciousness, don't look there.

Drum Island is the poster child for that.
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They say farting is destroying the ozone how long before you do your doodie to america?
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No, that's greenhouse gasses causing Global warming. And as Mitch McConnell tried to use (and that fart failed miserably) against Russ Feingold's reelection, the wrong (e.g, the Right) points to cow farts, not human ones.

Ozone depletion has to do with CFCs; Halides.

Stratospheric Ozone Depletion tutorial
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:05 PM
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No, that's greenhouse gasses causing Global warming. And as Mitch McConnell tried to use (and that fart failed miserably) against Russ Feingold's reelection, the wrong (e.g, the Right) points to cow farts, not human ones.

Ozone depletion has to do with CFCs; Halides.

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Only a terrorist refuses to do their doodie to America .. Every American knows the must do their doodie to America every day. Sometimes i do my doodie to America twice a day.. Remember doodie honer and country.. You must remember as an American to do your doodie every day. More if you can give....

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