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Old 01-08-2009, 06:08 PM
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Question Foreclosure

How bad has the foreclosure hit the areas of Charleston/Summerville?
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Not too awfuly bad.

Though it seems that way some times, my former neighbor was forclosed on, but she was way in over her head to begin with.

Of the eight houses that border mine, three are empty. One is a forclosure, one a rental, and one is just vacant due to the heirs not knowing what to do with it.

Strange how things are going these days.
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This was on CNN Money on the web today. It is tough to believe this, but the source is reputable.

Foreclosures dip - but hold the applause

November foreclosure filings dropped 7% from October, but that may be the calm before the storm.


By Les Christie, CNNMoney.com
Last Updated: December 11, 2008: 2:47 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Foreclosure filings dropped 7% from October to November, according a report released Thursday. But don't break out the bubbly. The tide of foreclosures may be ebbing now, but the flood isn't over yet.
"There are several indications that this lower activity is simply a temporary lull before another foreclosure storm hits in the coming months," James Saccacio, RealtyTrac's CEO, said in a statement.
November foreclosure filings fell to 259,085, or one for every 488 households in the nation, according to the latest report from RealtyTrac, the online marketer of foreclosure properties. That was down from October, but up 28% from November of 2007.
A total of 78,179 families lost their homes during the month, down 8% from October when 84,868 homes were repossessed by lenders. A total of 1,014,618 homes have been lost to foreclosure since the housing crisis hit back in August 2007.
November's decline in foreclosure filings is deceiving, according to Rick Sharga, RealtyTrac's vice president of marketing, because much of it is attributable to temporary foreclosure prevention efforts.
"The reduction is because Fannie Mae (FNM, Fortune 500) and Freddie Mac (FRE, Fortune 500) both announced moratoriums on foreclosures, while major lenders also put the brakes on foreclosure proceedings," said Sharga. "State moratoriums are also delaying the onset of foreclosures. But all that will only delay, not avoid them."
Sharga expects to see another good report in December, but a significant spike in foreclosure filings come January. Negative indicators. The economic climate is rapidly deteriorating and job losses are soaring - factors that are sure to exacerbate the housing crisis. And various forward-looking indicators show more trouble ahead.
For instance, the number of homeowners who fell behind on their mortgages hit a record 6.99% in the third quarter, up from 5.59% a year ago, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association.
Last week, Credit Suisse issued a report forecasting 8.1 million foreclosures by the end of 2012, accounting for 16% of all U.S. mortgages.
Meanwhile, evidence is mounting that current foreclosure-prevention efforts are falling well short of the mark.
A Dec. 8 report from the Office of Comptroller of the Currency stated that more than half of the borrowers who had their mortgages modified in the first half of 2008 are already delinquent again. Many of these delinquencies will turn into foreclosures in the coming months.
"A lot of those modifications are simply pushing back principal payments," said Sam Khater, senior economist for First American CoreLogic, a financial data and analytics company. "They're not reducing the level of debt. Many homeowners are in such bad shape that only much more drastic or radical modifications will help them."
To be viable, Khater added, most modifications will require lenders to make a significant principal reduction. And for the most part, that's not happening.
Biggest hits
The former boom states mostly in the Sun Belt, as well as Midwestern industrial states hit hard by job losses, continue to bear the brunt of the foreclosure crisis.
Nevada had the highest rate of foreclosures. One of every 76 homes there received some kind of foreclosure filing - notice of default, notice of foreclosure sale, bank repossession, etc. - during November. Florida was second with one filing for every 173 homes and Arizona had one for every 198.
California had the highest total number of filings with 60,491, and the fourth highest rate; one for every 218 households. Michigan was the hardest-hit state outside of the Sun Belt, with one filing for every 309 households.
Among cities, Cape Coral-Ft. Myers, Fla., posted the highest rate of foreclosure filings with one for every 59 households. Las Vegas had the second highest rate with one for every 61 homes.
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In our entire MLS we currently have 9,964 listings. Of those 190 are Lender Owned. So In my opinion it's not THAT bad.
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It seems to have increased slightly -- but what area in the US hasn't. We've checked the Dorchester County monthly foreclosure property -- to see what comes up for auction, and have even attended a few of the auctions. We joined a foreclosure website for a bit, and feel it has increased -- but NOTHING like we saw in MI. But that being said -- I think it's going to get worse. We have houses here in our neighborhood that have been on the market for over 6 months -- not one showing, and these are not high priced homes. We've watched a house on the market (over a year ago) go from around $700K to $499K.

If the market continues on this path -- sellers will have to do something to survive - lower price; rent or foreclosure/short sale. So far it seems that many sellers here either don't have to sell or have deep pockets. For us we were just putting more good money toward bad, so we cut our losses and got out while we could. I don't think there is the same "desperate" feeling here that we had in MI.
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Per Beach's numbers, 1.9% isn't bad, isn't good either though.

Beach could you pull some numbers from where RJ came from see how it compares?
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I am a Realtor in SC, and I have access to our Charleston area MLS. I did a search (as anyone can do) for MI MLS and found a site that said there were 109 Bank Owned Properties, but I don't know how many are listed on their MLS. Sorry not sure how accurate it is.
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You can see a list of Chas. Co. foreclosures each month. Under "Master-In-Equity" click on foreclosure auction list.
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Does MLS list if they are short sales? Foreclosures don't seem to be a big deal but a lot of people are really cutting it close. People who have owned a couple of years in Charleston are being insulated by the big gains we saw from the mid nineties through the 2004. We basically hit the wall in fall 2005. And I agree- the worst has yet to come but I a lot of people (but certainly not all) will be able to use their equity to wait out the storm.

I have a friend in lending in Horry ****y and apparently Myrtle Beach is the area of the state seeing the jump in foreclosures.
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Question this seemed interesting in this topic, don't ya think

I pulled this off Yahoo shortly ago. Found it interesting....


States with worst jobless rates share root causes


Unemployment hot spots all over the map, but worst states share housing, manufacturing pain
Christopher S. Rugaber and Ray Henry, Associated Press Writers
Friday January 9, 2009, 4:24 pm EST
Unlike the last recession, today's unemployment hot spots are all over the map.

The five states with the highest unemployment rates -- Michigan, Rhode Island, South Carolina, California and Oregon -- all have something in common, though: a heightened exposure to the root causes of this downward spiral.
The collapse of housing. The implosion of the auto industry. The meltdown of financial services. The exodus of manufacturing.
All states are feeling the pain, but the worst are getting hammered on multiple fronts:
-- The rotten housing market has punished California lenders and builders, taken an ax to Oregon's timber industry and soured the prospects for construction workers in Rhode Island, where buyers from neighboring states helped drive up home prices.
-- The steady decline of the manufacturing sector has punished Rhode Island and South Carolina, where laid-off factory workers lack the training and job opportunities in an increasingly high-tech economy.
-- The auto industry's pain is Michigan's above all. But it is also being felt in states like South Carolina, where German automaker BMW has cut 500 temporary workers, and in California, where many of dealerships have shut down.
"What makes this a different recession," said Rebecca Blank, an economist at the Brookings Institution, "is that it is so widespread."
During the 2001 recession, which was largely tied to the dot-com collapse, the West had a disproportionate amount of the jobless burden: Oregon, Washington, Alaska and California had the highest unemployment rates. (Mississippi and Washington, D.C. were tied with California.)
There is one region of the country that has largely avoided the country's real estate and manufacturing woes, and as a result has been spared the worst of the recession's pain.
A contiguous cluster of rural states -- Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska and Utah -- had the lowest unemployment rates in November, ranging from 3.2 percent to 3.7 percent. The Labor Department on Friday said the national jobless rate in December was 7.2 percent.
Historically high prices for energy and grains have been a boon to their economies, although recent declines in commodity prices are beginning to bite, economists said.
For the majority of the country, the air has come out of a decade-long housing bubble, with home prices falling an average of 20 percent in the past year and almost one in ten mortgages either overdue or in foreclosure. A wide swath of industries is feeling the pain, including real estate agents, bankers, builders, lumber companies and furniture makers.
The real estate bust is at the heart of mounting job losses in California, which has seen its unemployment rate reach 8.4 percent, the third-highest in the nation. In the year ending in November, 71 percent of the nonfarm jobs lost in California were housing-related.
Many of the nation's leading mortgage lenders -- Countrywide Financial, New Century Financial, IndyMac Bancorp, and Fremont General Corp. -- were based in California and have since been bought by larger banks or gone bankrupt.
The recently unemployed in California include Filemon Galvan, 41, of Buena Park, Calif., who was laid off from his job as a carpenter for a housing subcontractor in August.
"It's been a long time since we had a nice family outing," Galvan said in Spanish.
As the country's leading lumber producer, Oregon has also taken a direct hit from housing, with sawmills producing sharply less than a year ago. The slump has cost Oregon about 1,000 logging jobs in the past two years and more than 7,000 jobs in wood manufacturing, which includes plywood mills and the production of door and window frames, said David Cooke, an economist in Oregon's employment department.
Not even tiny Rhode Island, which has the nation's second-highest unemployment rate at 9.3 percent, has been exempt from the housing bust.
The slide has cost Rhode Island more than 3,000 construction jobs in the past year, according to the U.S. Labor Department.
Due to a combination of high energy prices, a strong dollar and competition from overseas, manufacturers have been manhandled for most of this decade -- and ground zero for the loss of factory jobs is Michigan. Its crumbling auto industry explains a large part of the state's nation-leading unemployment rate of 9.6 percent. Around the state, and across the country, the state's automakers have had to close plants and showrooms, cut back workers' hours and reduce wages as consumers' appetite for new cars dwindles along with their job security.
But the manufacturing slowdown has gone far beyond the industrial Midwest. South Carolina's jobless rate has reached 8.4 percent, the third-highest, as it struggles to replace lost textile and apparel manufacturing jobs with the type of high-tech industries that North Carolina has been able to attract.
And Rhode Island, not generally known as a manufacturing hub, has suffered. The industrial conglomerate Textron Inc., which is based in Providence and makes Cessna jets and Bell helicopters, laid off 2,200 of its 43,000 workers last year.
Most of the state's manufacturers are small, however, and have had a tough time weathering the credit crunch.
Lincoln, R.I. resident Larry Miller believed he would retire from the auto parts manufacturer where he first got a job as a newly married 26-year-old. That was two factory closings ago, the most recent being a plant owned by KIK Custom Products, which also had employed his wife.
"The word loyalty is gone," said Miller, shaking his head while sitting at his kitchen table. He found a new job in Massachusetts, but his wife is still looking.
Like South Carolina, the state hasn't yet made a successful transformation from manufacturing to newer-economy industries such as biotech or computing.
"I would summarize Rhode Island's economy as information age, hold the information," said Leonard Lardaro, an economist at the University of Rhode Island.
Rugaber reported from Washington, D.C., and Henry from Lincoln, R.I. Associated Press Writers Jacob Adelman in Los Angeles, Meg Kinnard in Charleston, S.C., Janna Elphinstone in New York, and Mary Hudetz in Portland, Ore., contributed to this report.
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