The Confederate flag (Charleston, Union, Inman: camps, salaries, plantations)

[RiWrites]

They burn the cross on peoples' property. What more do you want? An FYI they burned one when they set fire to the house my mom and her family were sleeping in. The cross is a major symbol for them.

And the picture just shows the lack of maturity on your part.

[ohioaninsc]

Originally Posted by OleTomCat

I am getting into this a little late, but here we go...

First off the war was not over slavery, it was about states rights and the right to self government, just like the war from a few years before that (1776).

Second, the KKK has use the Christian Cross more than the Battle Flag.

Third, the Battle flag was used in serveral different forms but was never flown by 'The Confederacy' it is what it is, a flag of the infantry.

Excellent post...revisionist history teaches that the War of Northern Aggression was about slavery, when in fact, as you stated, it was on States Rights....

[Geechie North]

Originally Posted by Nauticadon

I'm so tired of hearing people talk about "heritage" in defense of that flag.

This is the flag that was carried by a confederation of people who believed slavery was righteous and just.

That flag was representative of a "nation" whose ideals and beliefs were not in the best interest of all it's citizens.

It was flown by those whose believed in, supported, and engaged in American terrorism ala the KKK.

It was flown by those who believed in, supported, and engaged in government sanctioned oppression of an entire race ala Jim Crow laws.

It was flown by those who believed in, supported, and engaged in the murder of innocent men, women, and children.

Today that same flag is flown by those who take pride in that same "heritage" that it represents and yet somehow they've managed to dillute themselves into thinking that the people who oppose what that sh*t rag represents are the real hatemongers.

Comedy at it's finest.

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Sick comedy, but yes comedy.

If you think South Carolinians are completely nuts about what caused the war, just ask some (like my cousin's wife) who WON said war.

[Nauticadon]

Originally Posted by rubber_factory

lol, I was thinking the same thing. It is interesting how I don't care about the flag until somebody like Nauticadon comes down here from New Jersey and starts badmouthing my great-great-great grandparents.

So stating truths about the flag is considered in your eyes "badmouthing" your bloodline? I notice you accused me of badmouthing and NOT of lying.

[Nauticadon]

Originally Posted by OleTomCat

The Confederate Battle Flag was never a flag that represented the government of the Confederacy.

Flags of the Confederacy

This was a soldiers flag, his rally point NOT the Flag of the Confederacy.

The KKK has used the American Flag and the Christian Cross more than the Battle Flag

Dude are you serious? Those soldiers carried that flag in defense of a nation that believed in maintaining the status quo. Even if it wasn't the official flag by those soldiers carrying it it became the de facto flag of that nation.

[Nauticadon]

Originally Posted by Speedaddicted

There are a few exceptions...... LMAO

I wouldn't mind doing battle with her in the sheets......although I'm sure her ancestors would turn in their grave if they knew

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by ohioaninsc

Excellent post...revisionist history teaches that the War of Northern Aggression was about slavery, when in fact, as you stated, it was on States Rights....

Mainly states' rights to preserve slavery.

[BostonMedic]

On a lighter note......I think the picture of the flag is a very good interputation of the states rights in de facto , hapious corpus , indefensably on a persons body to do what ever the heck she wants. You could put ANY flag on that SYMBOL and it wouldnt look any different. In the words of a great southern themed movie from the 1990's My Cousin Vinny " Your honor, The defense rests!"

I hope I spelled these big latin words right. I only have a northern education.

[rubber_factory]

Originally Posted by Nauticadon

So stating truths about the flag is considered in your eyes "badmouthing" your bloodline? I notice you accused me of badmouthing and NOT of lying.

Some of them are facts. Much of what you say is not factual, it is only your opinion about what the flag means to large groups of people, many whom you've never met.

These things you mention - murdering innocents, terrorism a la the KKK, ideals and beliefs not in the best interest of all it's citizens, government sanctioned oppression of an entire race ala Jim Crow laws - these have also occured under the U.S. Flag, and outside the boundaries of the south. Do you think of these things when you see the U.S. flag, or have you diluted[sic] yourself into thinking that they didn't happen?

[carolinajack]

Originally Posted by pvjd

Carolina Jack, you had me until you said that the rainbow flag is hateful. Gay people fighting for equal rights is a good thing, in my book. Especially if we are going to pretend to be talking about opening our hearts, equality for all, accepting all of God's creatures, etc. My family is not threatened by that, and anyone who is is pretty paranoid, in my opinion. I find the irony in how so many religious people can be so hurtful to their fellow humans. That, however, is another topic. I think I will hang up my political hat for something more lighthearted, like fishing. That, I will do with you any time. We'll just bring plenty of doughnuts and not talk about the flag or gay people.

where did i say it ws hateful? I said it is a symbol that can and is offensive to other people just like the confederate flag is to some. So dont know where you got that from