The Confederate flag (Charleston, Sumter, Union: live in, assess, moving to)

[sumter native]

http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoun...ng-atlanta.htm

I think you need to update your computer there geechy cause we aint finding the same info hang on I got more for ya to digest...
sherman wanted the SOUTH to pay for ever trying to stand for herself..

[sumter native]

William T. Sherman’s First Campaign of Destruction » HistoryNet

[sumter native]

Your bucket is full of holes geechy, dude aint none of what ya said holds any water...

[sumter native]

and this hellhole of seccesion is where the u.s. got its start just think how much better off we`d have been if we just got the Southern States away from England and left yall to fend for yaself up there

[pvjd]

You seem quite defensive and upset. Is it because you are unable to justify slavery, so you rant and rave and pretend that it didn't happen, and that the south is innocent of all misdeeds, and the slaves were treated as family, and they all ate pie and raised kittens? Most people are not gullible enough to believe that, but keep on trying. By the way, it doesn't matter how many southern slang words you write, or how much you slaughter the English language. It doesn't make you any more relevant, credible, or more of a southerner. Only uneducated.

[carolinajack]

A fellow Charlestonian and fellow Brown Univ graduate, who's family was at the center of the Rice Plantation system, wrote a great book called "Slaves in the Family". It is an excellent read on the plantation system and the people it affected-including himself and how it shaped the lowcountry and world. As we know slavery was prevalent in the north as well as the south, with Rhode Island and New York being some of the most prominent and wealthiest places in the colonies due to slavery. He describes this, as well as the families of the lowcountry involved in the rice cultivation and the slave families intermeshed in it--with connections to today.

He helped me research Porcher's Bluff and the Porcher plantation in Mt Pleasnt Hamlin Community where my family lives and has lived since the 1700s and served on that plantation up until the early 1900s.

Studying now the Pinckney family and plantation where another part of my family came from.

[mcevoy34]

Originally Posted by carolinajack

A fellow Charlestonian and fellow Brown Univ graduate, who's family was at the center of the Rice Plantation system, wrote a great book called "Slaves in the Family". It is an excellent read on the plantation system and the people it affected-including himself and how it shaped the lowcountry and world. As we know slavery was prevalent in the north as well as the south, with Rhode Island and New York being some of the most prominent and wealthiest places in the colonies due to slavery. He describes this, as well as the families of the lowcountry involved in the rice cultivation and the slave families intermeshed in it--with connections to today.

He helped me research Porcher's Bluff and the Porcher plantation in Mt Pleasnt Hamlin Community where my family lives and has lived since the 1700s and served on that plantation up until the early 1900s.

Studying now the Pinckney family and plantation where another part of my family came from.

CJ, there is no question we all believe slavery was, is and always will be wrong. So understand that is not at all my question. But, I value your opinion more than most.

Where most slaves treated well? (outside of the fact they were slaves)
I understand the (whippings and other horrible deeds done). But was that the norm or the extreme. What did your relatives experience?

Some of the things I have read, seem to hint that slaves were not at the bottom of the food chain and seemed to take pride in the fact that they were better off then say the poor share croppers.

What was the quality of life?

Again, outside the very real fact that they were slaves which was wrong.

[carolinajack]

i think it was mixed bag. in slave narratives you find both extremes, brutality and a sense of connectedness in the family. many of the slave owners and family members wrote of a paternalistic nature they felt for the slaves, esp those who grew up with them as children. but you also find the most barbaric cruelty in others. So find it hard to really comment on which was most prevalent.

the quality of life varied as well from plantation and community. some in charleston were much less strident than in the countryside, some, like alot of my people (Gullah) had more freedoms on the sea islands and rice plantations and many in the city had more freedoms.

many did knw the life of the poor backcountry whites and thought not so highly of their behaviors--but most yearned to have their freedom

[mcevoy34]

thanks CJ

[Geechie North]

Originally Posted by sumter native

most of them stayed right on the plantations , they tried to keep up the farms and such while the men of the south were off fighting an invading army
The slave master relationship was not like it was portrayed in roots in many cases yall yankees keep bringing up slavery and all that bs and I think its because yall envy us and yall are ashamed of how your invading army treated the people of the south,and if the south is so bad then why dont yall stay up there...Most of us dont really want to see any more of yall foriegners down here and I dont mean all of yall just the ones that fell you have to force your beliefs on someone else (yall up there got a really bad habit of doing that)

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Utter rubbish:

Daily Life Along the Mississippi - Google Book Search


http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&gl=us


The End of Slavery and the Plantation System. The dangers within arose not only from recalcitrant planters but from the omnipresent threat of slave resistance. John Edwin Fripp of Saint Helena Island off the coast of South Carolina was able to write: "I am happy to say my negroes have acted orderly and well all the time, none going off excepting one or two Boys who accompanied the yanks for plunder but have returned home and appear quite willing to work." Nevertheless, Fripps experience was the exception rather than the rule. The majority of planters made careful notations in their logs about African Americans deserting plantations. Whenever Union troops moved into a region, slaves fled behind enemy lines. Many, if not most planters, felt wounded when their slaves abandoned the plantation for "Lincoln land." They were especially angered by those African Americans who led Federal troops to storehouses of food and buried treasure--the family silver and other heirlooms. Even after the issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation in January 1863, slave owners mistakenly placed their faith in paternalism. As one woman complained bitterly, "Those we loved best, and who loved us best--as we thought--were the first to leave us."

And Sherman's idea to bust up the plantations in 40 acre plots for slave families was post-war, fyi