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Old 05-22-2009, 02:25 PM
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Global Warming Hoax: News / Comments / Antarctic Sea Ice Up Over 43% Since 1980, Where Is The Media?


Tom,

Is this it???

Oh, Tom:

Try as I can, I can find zip in who supports ($) this site, that I assume you are using.

However, I did find that the data they use (Or misuse) comes from "Cryosphere Today" ( U of Ill.)

Here's what the Cryosphere folks really say:

What’s Really Up With North Pole Sea Ice? - Dot Earth Blog - NYTimes.com


"But scientists studying trends at both poles say there is nothing inconsistent with the intensifying greenhouse effect. William Chapman, who maintains the helpful Cryosphere Today Web site at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, sent me an email this morning reminding me of a 2005 study that projects more Antarctic sea ice (by volume) in a warming world.
“Yes, sea ice seems to behaving as the consensus of the climate models have been projecting - more rapid and larger response in the northern high latitudes than anywhere else, flat to possible increase in [southern hemisphere] sea ice as warming takes hold,” he wrote.
Here’s where the extent of sea ice in the Arctic stands now in relation to the average tracked between 1979 and 2000, and the remarkable ice loss in 2007:











The extent of Arctic Ocean sea ice is declining at a pace nearly matching last year's unforeseen plunge. (Credit: NSIDC)"



Polar Bears only live in the Arctic, Tom.

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Old 05-22-2009, 04:29 PM
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Ok, you use the ultra liberal NY times and you call mine politically or money related...
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Old 05-22-2009, 06:36 PM
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No, Tom, I used the people who originated the data that your loopy website misused;


Cryosphere Today.

Again, here's what Cryosphere Today says:

But scientists studying trends at both poles say there is nothing inconsistent with the intensifying greenhouse effect. William Chapman, who maintains the helpful Cryosphere Today Web site at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, sent me an email this morning reminding me of a 2005 study that projects more Antarctic sea ice (by volume) in a warming world. "
“Yes, sea ice seems to behaving as the consensus of the climate models have been projecting - more rapid and larger response in the northern high latitudes than anywhere else, flat to possible increase in [southern hemisphere] sea ice as warming takes hold,” he wrote.


Here’s where the extent of sea ice in the Arctic stands now in relation to the average tracked between 1979 and 2000, and the remarkable ice loss in 2007:


The extent of Arctic Ocean sea ice is declining at a pace nearly matching last year's
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Ok, you use the ultra liberal NY times and you call mine politically or money related...
Data is data. Geechie's source isn't the NY Times - it's: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Polar Research Group Department of Atmospheric Sciences.
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:41 PM
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....and any data can be skewed to show what it is the scientists are trying/hoping to prove. Very easy to do.
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It would a little sense to the record low for a high yesterday
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Yes i know before i realized my glaring error (what a naughty boy i am , go and stand in the corner with the dunces hat on) i was no longer able to edit it
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....and any data can be skewed to show what it is the scientists are trying/hoping to prove. Very easy to do.

Are you familiar with the 'peer review" process?

Why wasn't any funny biz caught then?

Or are all the scientists "in" on it??

That's pretty well nonsense, verdad?
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Are you familiar with the 'peer review" process?

Why wasn't any funny biz caught then?

Or are all the scientists "in" on it??

That's pretty well nonsense, verdad?
Nope, realism - plain and simple.
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Nope, realism - plain and simple.
So, you believe science to be a scam?
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