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06-15-2009, 01:42 PM
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WTH does that have to do with him. I guess that makes me a criminal because I have a cousin who is one.... LAME!
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read it again mr.smarty... and then lookup the info out there about it and you will see that the cousin and punk that got killed set this whole thing up with the intention of robbing the dope dealers... but it turned on them and one of them was killed...
so unless your planning on robbing a dope dealer at gun point in the middle of the night with your cousin then no, your not a criminal... geezzzz...
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06-15-2009, 01:56 PM
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Anyone who believes this was just a drug deal gone bad is pretty naive. But, I am not sure if I buy the story the drug dealers are telling either. If I had just popped a cap in someone's A$$, and facing prison or worse, I would try and make it look like self defense too! Even if this was a robbery and they got his gun, I am sure shooting they guy isn't justified if the bullets were in his back or if there was a delay in the initial skirmish. I have not been following this story as closely as I should, but does anyone one know if the drug dealers story has been coroborated by anyone else that is credible?
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06-15-2009, 06:25 PM
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I am just saying, even though the kid who got killed might have not been a saint, why are we as intelligent adults revelling in it? It is a tragedy any time someone dies, he has family who loved him and still want to honor his memory, and we would want the same respect if it happened to one of our children. Call me a bleeding heart liberal if you must (I don't see that as a negative thing), but are we really that desensitized that we don't see the humanity in the lives of other people, even though they have chosen the wrong path in life? He had his whole life to be rehabilitated, and had he lived, maybe this would have served as a tipping point for him.
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06-15-2009, 07:15 PM
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I am just saying, even though the kid who got killed might have not been a saint, why are we as intelligent adults revelling in it? It is a tragedy any time someone dies, he has family who loved him and still want to honor his memory, and we would want the same respect if it happened to one of our children. Call me a bleeding heart liberal if you must (I don't see that as a negative thing), but are we really that desensitized that we don't see the humanity in the lives of other people, even though they have chosen the wrong path in life? He had his whole life to be rehabilitated, and had he lived, maybe this would have served as a tipping point for him.
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other than being a cold blooded calculating leech sucking parasite off of others what was his humanity? there's a reason he's no longer with us... there are no more "what if's" for him...
oh yea, he had a great heart? then too bad he wasn't an organ donor...
he was obviously put here to show others his age why they DO NOT want to be like him, and end up like him...
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06-15-2009, 08:21 PM
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Well, I don't believe anybody is inherently evil, nor should we applaud the death of others who make mistakes with their lives.
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06-15-2009, 09:02 PM
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ichigo ichie 1 time 1 meeting unprecedented
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Well, I don't believe anybody is inherently evil, nor should we applaud the death of others who make mistakes with their lives.
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the root of the problem. no such thing as sin or crime only lots terrible misunderstandings and bad choices. same as here.
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06-15-2009, 09:54 PM
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Well, I don't believe anybody is inherently evil, nor should we applaud the death of others who make mistakes with their lives.
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this country we live in is excellent isn't it
you just haven't met evil... yet... once you do there will be no mistaking it...
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06-15-2009, 11:57 PM
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All the snide comments aside, I still do not understand why it is seemingly ok to relish in the fact that a kid has died a senseless death, and why it seems justifiable to do so. Our decisions guide us, and he made bad decisions, but we are all capable of doing really stupid things and getting in serious trouble over it. I work with seriously mentally ill people who have been homeless, in prison, in state institutions, addicted to drugs, involved in prostitution, etc. I have seen first-hand the capacity that people have to change, and that everybody has intrinsic beauty, dignity and worth. I don't believe anybody on this forum is really that much better, of different for that matter, than this kid, nor are their lives of any more value. If you believe that, than try telling it to his family.
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06-16-2009, 02:18 AM
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I can only speak for myself...
I know I am better and different than that kid, if I wanted pot I would go out and work my job then go pay someone or grow my own, NOT attempt to rob some other drug dealer at the point of a gun....
Bad decisions have consequences this time his happens to be death, I do not feel sorry for him, and only slightly for his family for raising such a looser with so little work ethic that he is too lazy to get a job to earn money for his recreational pharmaceuticals.
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06-16-2009, 06:12 AM
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Yes, we all have choices to make. We have all made good and bad choices in our lives.
With that said, one of the largest problems with our society today is there is NO accountability
for one's actions any longer. It is now politically correct to blame it on one's *environment* or
other issues. That is pure BS, accept responsibility for your actions. NO MATTER the consequence.
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