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Old 10-30-2009, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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The jobs that Boeing is bringing to SC will pay between $70 and $100k per year. Whatever impact that would have relative to current local wage and salary scales (if any)will effect your real estate prices.
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Old 10-30-2009, 03:33 PM
 
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Oh and the Sr Managment relocating there makes quite abit more but there are not large numbers of them and they will not arrive all at once.
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Old 10-30-2009, 05:54 PM
 
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The jobs that Boeing is bringing to SC will pay between $70 and $100k per year. Whatever impact that would have relative to current local wage and salary scales (if any)will effect your real estate prices.

Huh?

Most of the postions will be 'blue collar' production jobs at @$16/hr....add benefits and your lucky to hit $45K for total compensation.

Now if you have a technical background - manufacturing engineering, configuration assurance, material sciences, - then wages will be very competitive for these labor categories.
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Old 10-31-2009, 10:23 AM
 
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Yeah I wouldn't suspect that 'most' of the jobs will be in the higher paying scale.

Will this be the final production plant. Components parts will be developed and produced all over and brought here for final assembly right?
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Mount Pleasant South Carolina
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It is my understanding that in Everette Washington, machinists earn about $26 and hour plus benefits.Without enough trained workers in Charleston, Boeing and Global Aeronautica import more outside experienced contract workers such as airplane mechanics who reportedly are paid $26 and hour. Although time will tell, I suspect that there will be a substantial number of new workers moving to the area who will be making more than $16 an hour. If the worker is married and has an employed spouse, the family income should be substantially more than $45,000 a year. How this will affect home prices in the Charleston area is anyone's guess, although it may be helpful in at least stabilizing home prices in parts of the Charleston area.

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Huh?

Most of the postions will be 'blue collar' production jobs at @$16/hr....add benefits and your lucky to hit $45K for total compensation.

Now if you have a technical background - manufacturing engineering, configuration assurance, material sciences, - then wages will be very competitive for these labor categories.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Lowcountry
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It is my understanding that in Everette Washington, machinists earn about $26 and hour plus benefits.Without enough trained workers in Charleston, Boeing and Global Aeronautica import more outside experienced contract workers such as airplane mechanics who reportedly are paid $26 and hour. Although time will tell, I suspect that there will be a substantial number of new workers moving to the area who will be making more than $16 an hour. If the worker is married and has an employed spouse, the family income should be substantially more than $45,000 a year. How this will affect home prices in the Charleston area is anyone's guess, although it may be helpful in at least stabilizing home prices in parts of the Charleston area.
If they can't get labor for less than what they currently pay (union wages) in Puget Sound, then why build an assembly line in SC?

Reducing their costs by at least 1/3 is one of the main reason they are moving here - and to eliminate the possibility of the union striking and costing the company billions and further delaying the 787s entering the market. As it did in 2008.

Well if one of the breadwinners is currently unemployed and is lucky enought to get a $45K offer from Boeing, then I guess this would equate to a substantial increase in family income....if currently underemployed, then not so much.

I guarantee you that Boeing will not have any problem whatsoever finding people to work at $16/hr + limited benefits at their assembly plant....and a majority of those workers needed to assembly 787s in Charleston will be contract employees - not Boeing employees.

Contract employees don't unionize so the threat of a strike is eliminated even if the Employee Free Choice Act (read 'Card Check') is passed by Congress.

You can use BMW's plant in the Upstate as a model.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:14 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Boeing is certainly not locating in Charleston to pay workers the same amount that they are paying in other states. To pay workers the same thing that they pay in other states would defeat the purpose of putting a plant there in the first place. There attraction to SC is the fact that they can get away with paying residents less, thus keeping more money in their pockets. It just makes good business sense to locate in a place where the labor force will work for cheap. Just like what BMW does in upstate SC (Greenville, SC)....they pay assembly line workers $11 - $13 an hour, hire them through temporary staffing agencies, keep them temporary forever (while they keep working at the plant hoping to be hired permanently) and then when business is not doing good they let the assembly line (temporary workers) people go.

It is the responsiblity of the SC politicians to make sure that residents interests are protected. If the only thing that comes out of the Boeing deal results in SC residents getting assembly line jobs while they transfer talent from other states to take the higher paying management jobs then the deal is not a good one for the average SC person. I know we are in a recession and any jobs that are created are looked at in a favorable manner. But people must stop thinking in the short term and begin to think critically about the long term impact on the average person who will be seeking a job. The state will benefit from the revenue generated by this deal, Boeing will benefit from saving money..........what benefit will the average SC resident receive
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:55 PM
 
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What benefit would they get if Boeing didn't decide on the Charleston area?
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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the main benefit Boeing gets isn't about wages, so it's very possible the wages will be close to what they are elsewhere... it's about the unions, getting away from them so they don't lose BILLIONS and YEARS of production due to labor disagreements and strikes...

the main reason they are coming here is because washington would not agree NOT to strike again, and in this economy it cost Boeing wayyyyy too many billions in loses to repeat that one again

union mechanics only making $26 an hour?? then add in union fees, all the benefits etc etc and it's over $100 an hour... I have family that are retired union and several still working in them, their salary plus bene's adds up to wayyy more than most companies can afford these days

I have a brother in law that works for the union in Chicago for Mitisbishi who's been out of work, with supposed injuries that amount to nothing more than joint pain from getting older, more than he's actually worked in the last 10 yrs... what company can possible afford crap like that? they should have fired him years ago... stuff like that is why Boeing is coming here IMHO
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:49 AM
 
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the main benefit Boeing gets isn't about wages, so it's very possible the wages will be close to what they are elsewhere... it's about the unions, getting away from them so they don't lose BILLIONS and YEARS of production due to labor disagreements and strikes...

the main reason they are coming here is because washington would not agree NOT to strike again, and in this economy it cost Boeing wayyyyy too many billions in loses to repeat that one again

union mechanics only making $26 an hour?? then add in union fees, all the benefits etc etc and it's over $100 an hour... I have family that are retired union and several still working in them, their salary plus bene's adds up to wayyy more than most companies can afford these days

I have a brother in law that works for the union in Chicago for Mitisbishi who's been out of work, with supposed injuries that amount to nothing more than joint pain from getting older, more than he's actually worked in the last 10 yrs... what company can possible afford crap like that? they should have fired him years ago... stuff like that is why Boeing is coming here IMHO
meks
Someone is pulling your leg....that's not even close to a reasonable figure even at a fully burdened rate....
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