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Old 12-22-2009, 11:52 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Then why don't we see it with EVERY jet and why don't we see it every day? This was the first time I'd ever seen any here in Charleston.

Here are some videos and an audio of a radio show discussing this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKqZYZYVRF4
HR2977

thanks for posting this here is fact for those who doubt it's reality:
(also go to willthomasonline.net to learn more)


"Just two months before, Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich had ignited a Congressional firestorm by introducing HR2977. His “Space Preservation Act” called for the peaceful uses of space and a ban on “exotic weapons”. Section 7 specifically sought to prohibit “chemtrails”.

Kucinich later told Columbus Alive that despite official denials, as head of the Armed Services oversight committee he was well acquainted with chemtrail projects. “The truth is there's an entire program in the Department of Defense - 'Vision for 2020' - that's developing these weapons,” Kucinich told Fitrakis. The U.S. Space Command mission statement calls for “full-spectrum dominance of space, land, sea and air.”

According to Kucinich, Section 7 naming chemtrails, HAARP and other planet-threatening weapons was omitted in a substitute bill under pressure from scientists who did not want their own funding cut. [“Air Traffic Controllers Concerned Over Chemtrails” by William Thomas lifeboatnews.com Mar 4/02; Columbus Alive Jan 24/02] "
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Summerville
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And just because you read it on the internet it has to be true......
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:00 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Here's more on chemtrails:
TANKERS OVER EDMONTON
Dave Dickie's company performs contract landscape work for the City of Edmonton. In November 2002 his crews began finding widespread nutrient deficiency in soils that could cause severe problems for plant life, including trees.

Soils analysis came back with showing extreme Electrical Conductivity readings. A November 18, 2002 lab test of snow falling through chemtrails also confirmed elevated levels of aluminum and barium. Norwest Labs lab report #336566 dated November 14. 2002 found:

q aluminum levels: 0.148 milligrams/litre
q barium levels: 0.006 milligrams/litre

As Dickie confirmed to this reporter, “It is the scientific opinion of the lab that the aluminum content of the sample is high and unusual. Elevated levels of aluminum and barium are not usually found in Alberta precipitation.”


Dickie regularly visits Air Traffic Control at the Edmonton municipal airport to watch the chemplanes making repeated passes over the city. Blessed with good friends at work in the tower, he has watched radar-identified KC-135s “on many occasions.”

On Father's Day 2002, Dickie and an excited group of 12 year-olds watched two KC-135s tracked by radar as HA (High Altitude) targets flying at 34,000 and 36,000 feet - “one to the south, and one to the north of the city.”

Both USAF tankers had flown south out of Alaska. As Dickie, the kids and the controllers watched, the big jets began making patterns over Edmonton - “circuits” the controllers called it. “Petro 011” and “Petro 012” were working alone in “commanded airspace” from which all other aircraft were excluded.

And they were leaving chemtrails.

“The signature is significant,” one radar operator commented, referring to a trail clearly visible on the scope extending for miles behind the KC-135. In contrast, a JAL flight on the display left no contrail.

Going outside, Dickie and several controllers scanned clear blue skies. They easily located the KC-135 leaving its characteristic white-plume “signature”. Visibility was outstanding. They also clearly identified the JAL airliner at a similar flight level. It left no contrail at all.

“We see these guys up here a lot,” the radar techs told Dickie. “You should have seen it when they had the big summit up in Calgary. It was exciting to watch them.”

Was the U.S. Air Force spraying barium to enhance radio and radar surveillance over that G-8 gathering - or for some other purpose?

There could be no doubt about what was being left in the tankers' wake. Showing up on radar as “birdie feet” triangles, the reflective plumes also showed up as “as a concentration of dots” in the radar-visible plume. Focusing on each plane with the click of cursor, “we could see different contrails,” Dickie described. Some were short and quickly vanished from the 'scopes. Other trails were thick, long and lingering - not contrails at all. [Chemtrails Confirmed]
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:14 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default more on chemtrails

WHAT'S NEW?
In 1965, a report urging President Johnson to head off atmospheric warming instead of the Viet Cong did not even mention cutting emissions. Urging a silver bullet instead of biting the climate change bullet, the National Academy of Science went on to issue studies in 1977, 1982 and 1990 championing space mirrors and atmospheric sunscreens. In 1979, physicist Freeman Dyson leveraged his considerable scientific creds to propose deliberate, large-scale introduction of fine particles into the upper atmosphere to offset global warming. [Technology, Entertainment, Design conference New York City Sept/07; Wall Street Journal Oct 17/97]

Since only a fraction of incoming solar radiation reaches the Earth's surface, this chemical sunscreen “would have more impact if done high in the atmosphere,” the NAS said. It might even “destroy stratospheric ozone.”

Why?

Because spraying megatons of fine particles into the stratosphere clumps chlorine compounds into giant ice clouds. When struck by sunlight, these chemical clouds refract prismatic fragments like rainbows. And become highly corrosive to ozone.

Ken Caldeira was the climate expert who ran the computer simulations at the Lawrence Livermore atom bomb labs. He too warned that the stratospheric spraying of sunlight-reflecting chemicals could “destroy the ozone layer” - as well as posing human health risks.


CHEAP THRILLS
Nevertheless, the NAS enthused, “Perhaps one of the surprises of this analysis is the relatively low costs at which some of the geoengineering options might be implemented.”

Each “dust distribution mission” would require a 500-mile flight lasting about an hour and a half at a delivery cost of just $500 per ton of sunlight-reflecting chemicals. [Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming chapter 28]
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:22 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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And just because you read it on the internet it has to be true......
this isn't just internet conspiracy tinhat theory; it's been acknowledged in the United States Congress as an existing secret program of the Department of Defense:


"Just two months before, Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich had ignited a Congressional firestorm by introducing HR2977. His “Space Preservation Act” called for the peaceful uses of space and a ban on “exotic weapons”. Section 7 specifically sought to prohibit “chemtrails”.

Kucinich later told Columbus Alive that despite official denials, as head of the Armed Services oversight committee he was well acquainted with chemtrail projects. “The truth is there's an entire program in the Department of Defense - 'Vision for 2020' - that's developing these weapons,” Kucinich told Fitrakis. The U.S. Space Command mission statement calls for “full-spectrum dominance of space, land, sea and air.”

According to Kucinich, Section 7 naming chemtrails, HAARP and other planet-threatening weapons was omitted in a substitute bill under pressure from scientists who did not want their own funding cut. [“Air Traffic Controllers Concerned Over Chemtrails” by William Thomas lifeboatnews.com Mar 4/02; Columbus Alive Jan 24/02] "
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Summerville
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Ok, how can it be a secret if it is acknowledge by the US Congress????

I am sure the drowning polar bears are aware of this too.....
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:58 PM
 
Location: SC
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Yes I discovered after posting and meant to edit/delete and add a very interesting excerpt from a show on the History channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N02NV7hlR9U that talked about the military working to manipulate the weather and use that as a weapon against populations. If they can block the sunlight or cause natural disasters that would be very effective in wiping out populations. Don't you think?

I also wanted to add a comment that now that the the whole global warming thing has been proven to be a hoax www.globalwarminghoax.com
as scientists have admitted they fabricated data to LOOK like individual humans and their SUVs were making too big of a "carbon footprint" and were responsible for "global warming".

Maybe the idea was for us to be brainwashed enough so we believed we caused it and would then be willing to be taxed to the gills for programs we believe are supposed to save the environment but are instead used for the government to further manipulate the environment via this Starwars Project.

According to this, one of the differences between contrails and chemtrails are that contrails dissappear almost immediately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VzDX...eature=related
Just had to change "hole global warming thing" to whole global warming thing---which of course was what I meant to write initially.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:13 PM
 
Location: SC
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And just because you read it on the internet it has to be true......
Oh come ON Ole Tom Cat. There is a lot more about chemtrails than a few things on the internet. 167 results on Amazon.com came up when I searched for "chemtrails" in the Book section ALONE. See for yourself. Here is the link. Amazon.com: chemtrails: Books

Some of them are chemistry text books no less.... Chemtrails have been a fact of life for a while. However I guess some of us prefer to pretend they don't exist.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC
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Oh come ON Ole Tom Cat. There is a lot more about chemtrails than a few things on the internet. 167 results on Amazon.com came up when I searched for "chemtrails" in the Book section ALONE.
Yes, but I typed in "conspiracy theories" on Amazon.com and got 190 results in the book section
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:54 PM
 
Location: SC
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Yes, but I typed in "conspiracy theories" on Amazon.com and got 190 results in the book section
Ha Ha. (I bet you didn't find any text books on them.) You can't take pictures of theories either. People used to discount those but now they can't very easily. The theories are reality and are as plain as day. The New World Order and the Bildergerger group is a good example.

Oh, want to see what the inside of a military plane looks like that sprays all these chemicals? Check this site out and scroll almost to the bottom.


Chemtrails Over US

It is one thing to be a skeptic about the emerging truth and reality of our world and our time.... but quite another to be in total denial about it.
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