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Old 11-29-2018, 03:46 PM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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The article in the Gazette by Swint a couple of weeks ago tried to throw cold water on the whole project. Basically saying that the costs for construction would lead to very high prices for leasing. It also mentioned that the fill needed for the pond would be coming from the Jefferson Rd project which has not really even begun other than buying up properties.

It looks like something that has many challenges to overcome and even if this does happen Iím wondering if we are looking at somewhere between a 5 to 8 year window. Everything in this part of WV seems to be a pain in the ass anymore.
I hope the scale back enough to leave the pond. I believe the ducks even have a right-of-way to cross MacCorkle Avenue there. I've seen traffic stopped in both directions while the whole group went from the river to the pond.
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Old 11-29-2018, 04:39 PM
 
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From the way the author made it sound the sq ft retail cost will be prohibitive for retailers. I have no idea if he’s right or wrong or if he has an agenda.
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Old 12-28-2018, 07:31 AM
 
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Nice update on the planning ongoing for Park Place:

https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinio...50e797e15.html
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Old Today, 06:13 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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I drove past there yesterday and wondered why there has been absolutely zero activity since they did some clearing and parked some big boy toys there. That was months ago.

I doubt that Aldi would build right across the street from Kroger, but Sheetz certainly WOULD build right across the street from the Kroger fuel center. I don't eat at Chick-Fil-A, so I don't care if they build there. I'd like to see some place in South Charleston that featured craft beer, like a brewery with a tasting room, a brewpub, a tap room, or a Pies & Pints type place. Olive Tree is the only place in town that has any WV made beer, and they don't usually rotate their offerings.
The post above was made in November. There has been absolutely no change at the location since then.

What I HAVE seen around town are signs referring to this development as "Swamp Mall" due to the fact that the location is still essentially a swamp. I'm beginning to wonder if anything will ever be built there.
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Old Today, 09:02 AM
 
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The post above was made in November. There has been absolutely no change at the location since then.

What I HAVE seen around town are signs referring to this development as "Swamp Mall" due to the fact that the location is still essentially a swamp. I'm beginning to wonder if anything will ever be built there.


I agree, hence my comments in the other thread that not everything involving this development seems to be on the up-and-up.

It is obvious that it would be pointless to develop Park Place before the opening of the new Jefferson Road connector. Riverwalk Mall across MacCorkle already has tepid traffic flow, except for Kroger. Adding this much retail space in the same area before customers can reach it will kill the project on opening day.

Jefferson Road has to re-open and possibly be open for a short while before the main anchors at Park Place cut their ribbons. The smaller outlets can open before and after but they will not be traffic drivers.

What will matter is the actual traffic on MacCorkle as a result of Park Place and if they are thinking clearly on future demand. A prudent futurist would see the need for a dedicated on and off ramp before MacCorkle into Park Place from the side or back, because the center is only going to survive with customers coming from Corridor G.

MacCorkle Ave is already a steady stream of traffic and all there is at this location is a swampy quagmire.


Because of the fill dirt issue, Park Place can't even begin the design phase. The fill has to be placed and set and the ground has to be tested for density before the go-ahead will be given for development. Only then can the planners move in, once they have a stable plot of land to build upon. Fortunately that process can be curtailed by preliminary plans but that is all they are and none are approved by any zoning board, governmental commission or insurance provider.

As quick as some would like this process to happen, the Jefferson Road project has a planned 30 month life span and that is unlikely to be maintained. So, we assume 36 months. If constructions starts as announced, it will be sometime this summer, probably late or even early fall. Assume September of 2019. We would be looking at an opening sometime in the fall (before Christmas) of 2022.

The stores go up fast, especially the Big Box sort in a range of 3 to 6 months. Stocking and training of staff, is another 30 to 60 days and this gives a window of 4 to 8 months. This implies no store constructions needs to happen before Jan/Feb of 2022 and might not start until Apr/May if we have a rough winter that year.

It is going to be a long time before anything happens there.
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Old Today, 02:38 PM
 
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The developer and city have said that Park Place won’t get underway until at least 2020. They plan on using dirt from the Jefferson Road project to fill the fly ash pond, so until the road is started there won’t be any work.
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