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Old 07-22-2010, 06:45 PM
 
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Many people aren't aware that having a reaction doesn't mean a life long allergy. I have a sensitivity to a common ingredient that seriously effected me when I was young. While I still have a sensitivity I don't avoid it anymore because the reactions are not severe, if they happen at all. I have only known of two kids with food allergies serious enough to require that the school have an epi pen and special instructions, and one of them is now in college and stopped following his dietary restrictions in high school. I don't know what it means but apparently it's not a problem for him anymore.
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:27 PM
 
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Now that it has been mentioned, this peanut allergy thing seems to have sprung from out of nowhere about 20 years ago. Prior to that I don't ever remember hearing about such a thing and certainly never heard of any kids when growing up that had such a thing.
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:56 PM
 
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Me either...when my oldest was little it wasn't common..I'd say when my 2nd child started school. I think it is interesting too...it is either GMO's which were around in the last decade or the fact that docs kept pushing peanuts up to wait to give a child and so some never were introduced to little bits of it over a time. Yes kids grow out of allergies, there are allergies and intolerances etc but it happens. I dont agree with peanut free schools b/c I think it sets up a false sense of security. You don't live in everyone's home so therefore you can't control what is on their hands, in their pockets and what someone ate before leaving home or at the bus stop, if you have that sort of reaction or potential reaction I just don't think a small child is capable of realizing the whole spectrum of things. They don't think about someone eating toast with pb on it as they were on their way to the busstop and then sitting on the seat and touch things. They just don't. I hope they figure out this but until the government wakes up and doesn't let money control legislation and regulation research will be limited...GMO crops, pesticide use etc....
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:06 PM
 
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Now that it has been mentioned, this peanut allergy thing seems to have sprung from out of nowhere about 20 years ago. Prior to that I don't ever remember hearing about such a thing and certainly never heard of any kids when growing up that had such a thing.
Agree 100%....never heard of this when I was younger...

Its crazy....schools are nut free for lunch...absolutely crazy that you punish a whole school of kids because 1 kid in the school has a severe outbreak...what sense does that make?
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:27 PM
 
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I'm astounded at this post! do you guys really believe this?! I hate to take this personal BUT I never took my daughter to an allergist until she ate handful of mixed planters nuts and had to be rushed to the hospital due to the hives, throwing up, and trouble breathing! There is no faking that at a year and a half old.
The epi pen is only used if she gets ahold of something and goes into shock, the benydryl is because if someone has touched or eaten nuts and touches her or kisses her cheek, there is an immediate hive. She has only had the one outburst where a hospital was needed but thats because I am extremely careful, taught her well and use benadryl at the first sign of a reaction.
Please don't take it as a personal attack! I do stand by my opinion, but that doesn't mean that I don't think peanut allergies are real and dangerous for a very, very small percentage of people. Perhaps your daughter is one of the small percentage.

I do think peanut, as well as many other allergies are WAY over-diagnosed. Like I said, parents take their kid to the allergist and a sensitivity shows up, so they get an epi pen. It's a little ridiculous.

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I read a story once where a mother at a public park got into a screaming match with a family who was there enjoying a picnic lunch of peanut butter sandwiches. The screaming mother had an allergic child. I would have told her to go home, and then continued to enjoy my picnic
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:23 PM
 
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Me either...when my oldest was little it wasn't common..I'd say when my 2nd child started school. I think it is interesting too...it is either GMO's which were around in the last decade or the fact that docs kept pushing peanuts up to wait to give a child and so some never were introduced to little bits of it over a time. Yes kids grow out of allergies, there are allergies and intolerances etc but it happens. I dont agree with peanut free schools b/c I think it sets up a false sense of security. You don't live in everyone's home so therefore you can't control what is on their hands, in their pockets and what someone ate before leaving home or at the bus stop, if you have that sort of reaction or potential reaction I just don't think a small child is capable of realizing the whole spectrum of things. They don't think about someone eating toast with pb on it as they were on their way to the busstop and then sitting on the seat and touch things. They just don't. I hope they figure out this but until the government wakes up and doesn't let money control legislation and regulation research will be limited...GMO crops, pesticide use etc....
I think you are very wise for teaching a child with a severe allergy to be aware and to take responsibility (as appropriate for his/her age) in re: to what they eat, what they accept from others, etc. I also agree that a small child cannot possibly have the discretion to figure this all out.

I have wondered about this, too - as to why we are seeing so many allergies to peanuts in particular. I do wonder how much of it is a hyper-sensitivity to pesticides (or other artificially introduced chemicals). It really worries me, b/c studies show that pesticides are present in breast milk of women who do not even live anywhere near rural or agricultural areas. This means it has become a common part of the ecosphere.

It has to be a really difficult situation for parents to send kids off to school when they have a history of severe allergic reactions (to anything!)

I think schools could devise nutritional lunches (and breakfasts, for that matter) that avoid the most common allergies. I think it is really sad how nutritionally empty so much of the food they serve is. We had really good lunches when I was a kid. We would smell that vegetable soup wafting through the school and look forward to a great lunch - veggie soup, cheese sandwiches, milk, and some type of fruit. I don't see why food can't still be prepared that way. It is all quite baffling to me.
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Old 07-22-2010, 10:46 PM
 
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Agree 100%....never heard of this when I was younger...

Its crazy....schools are nut free for lunch...absolutely crazy that you punish a whole school of kids because 1 kid in the school has a severe outbreak...what sense does that make?
I even read the other day that they're having nut free zones on airplanes. I think I would demand a seat change if I ended up in a free zone, I want my little bag of peanuts! Its the only perk left on the airplanes.

I agree with the others that this is almost a newish sort of thing. When I was in school if you forgot your lunch you were given peanut butter on crackers. This would be unheard of these days, and I graduated high school in 2004, so it really wasn't that long that it was still normal to be giving every kid peanut butter.
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Old 07-22-2010, 11:01 PM
 
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I do think peanut, as well as many other allergies are WAY over-diagnosed. Like I said, parents take their kid to the allergist and a sensitivity shows up, so they get an epi pen. It's a little ridiculous.
I agree. My brother was diagnosed as allergic to peanuts before he even had eaten a single one. We still had peanut butter in the house, we still ate it, and he never had a reaction to being around it. Of course he grew up thinking that he was in fact allergic to nuts, so has yet to ever eat any. But I'm sure he's at least come in contact with some sort of nut from time to time. My sister and I really don't think that he's allergic, but my grandma has always told him the dangers of eating food your allergic too so that has been a big factor in him not ever eating any.


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I read a story once where a mother at a public park got into a screaming match with a family who was there enjoying a picnic lunch of peanut butter sandwiches. The screaming mother had an allergic child. I would have told her to go home, and then continued to enjoy my picnic
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Oh, I would go crazy on these people if they tried to tell me what I can and cannot eat in public. I hate when people bring their kids out in public and feel like every single stranger should accommodate them. I love kids and all, but if they're not mine I'm not going to treat them as if they were. I have every right to do my own thing in public (within the law), and you have every right to take your kids elsewhere as you see fit.
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Old 07-22-2010, 11:06 PM
 
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Getting back to the free breakfast program...

Is this something parents have to drop their kids off early for? If so then what makes the school think the parents will get up early to take their kids to school, but not to make them breakfast? And if it is at the start of regular school hours are parents able to opt out of having their kids given such an unhealthy breakfast? On the one hand, I think for the program to work it would have to be at the start of school, but then I think its very unfair to those parents that do actually give their children a healthy meal. You can't really single out certain students, so I'm a little confused at how this program is supposed to work.
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:11 AM
 
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Getting back to the free breakfast program...

Is this something parents have to drop their kids off early for? If so then what makes the school think the parents will get up early to take their kids to school, but not to make them breakfast? And if it is at the start of regular school hours are parents able to opt out of having their kids given such an unhealthy breakfast? On the one hand, I think for the program to work it would have to be at the start of school, but then I think its very unfair to those parents that do actually give their children a healthy meal. You can't really single out certain students, so I'm a little confused at how this program is supposed to work.
The free breakfast is before school starts. I believe students are allowed to arrive up to 30 minutes before classes start. I am not sure how many students participate in the program regularly. I can see the benefit for some working parents since they are able to drop kids off early, therefore being able to go to work earlier. This may save them some money on before care. Not that I agree with that (free childcare) but it is a savings for people who really need it.
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