Need advice re CMPD and Walmart vs my kid (corporate, paid)

[Hoagie58]

Originally Posted by Stratford, Ct. Resident

The OP authorized the 20 year old to accompany her son. Do you interpret that this ordinance calls for a written itinerary to be completed by the parent? I don't. And a court wouldn't read it that way either. Nice try at stirring the pot though!

FAIL........

While I am no expert on the law, "specified area" implies to me that the parent has sanctioned a trip from point A to point B. Following your logic, the 20 yr old acting as the parent's surrogate, would have the authority to accompany the minor on ay number of side trips. The "specified area" portion of the ordinance was added to prevent just that. Otherwise, wouldn't it be possible that a 17 year old ( or 15 year olds in this instance) could befriend an 18 year old, stay out all night, and effectively circumvent the spirit and intent of the ordinance?

[lumbollo]

Originally Posted by Stratford, Ct. Resident

I'm not assuming anything. Read the OP again.: A 15 year old friend and a 20 year old friend. That equals 2 friends. I'm trying to be patient in explaining this to you, but you're not making things easy.

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Sigh. Since you either can't read it, or are choosing to completely ignore it, here it is again. I don't know why I waste my time.

Originally Posted by sandyrn0224

..... The worst thing they apparently did was break curfew--and for that much I reamed him out,

The OP said they broke curfew and even blessed out the kid for it. She did not give the details of why this happened vs the 20 year old except that she said it happened. You incorrectly assume the 20 y/o was with them at the time of the incident. One more time. My comments were on what was posted, not guesses. In any case, your contention that I was incorrect on what i said is without merit or basis. Your patience is misplaced as your ire, for some reason, is directed at me and there is not rational reason for it.

[sheenie2000]

Originally Posted by sandyrn0224

CMPD enforces a county-wide curfew for those under 16. It means your child has to be home by 11 p.m. Sunday-Thursday and midnight Friday and Saturday.
Police point to popular shopping centers like Stonecrest in southeast Charlotte which teens tend to frequent.


Police warn parents about curfew with summer vacation looming | West Charlotte News


IT WAS 11 OCLOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


FRIDAY NIGHT!!! It's midnight on the weekend, 11 M-Th..


Come back at me for that one now....he didn't even BREAK THE CURFEW!!!!!! OMG....that was the final straw......

They didn't find anything on them but asked for their information. My son and his friend didn't even have their learner's permit yet and the brother of his friend had his NC DL. The cops took their names, addresses and parent's phone numbers. My son and his friend didn't even have their learner's permit yet and the brother of his friend had his NC DL

Originally Posted by lumbollo

No, I know the law. You are assuming the 20 year old was with the kids when this event happened. Read the OP again, which seems to be a challenge for some. The OP said the kids were apparently in violation of the curfew. The details of why were not given. I have said several times here that I am basing my comments solely on what was posted. If you did read it, then you are cherry picking facts.

I questioned this too, and two things come to mind. 1. Either the 20 year old was not with them when this happened and they failed to tell the police this. Or 2. they made a mistake. In either case, this was not raised as an issue so we have to assume, BASED on the OP's account, they were in violation.

Based on the OP's above comments, it seems like the 20 year old was there and possibly gave his DL to the police. And according to the OP it was only 11pm. So either 1) the police made a mistake or 2) the OP has the incorrect time.

I don't SCR is cherry picking facts, you seem to be missing a few of them based on the OP's comments.

[sheenie2000]

Anyway, if it was apparently 11 o'clock, it seems the 15 year olds don't even need a parent or adult over 18 with them on a Friday night.

[lumbollo]

Originally Posted by sheenie2000

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I don't SCR is cherry picking facts, you seem to be missing a few of them based on the OP's comments.

What about

"..... The worst thing they apparently did was break curfew--and for that much I reamed him out.."

are you having difficulty with in understanding?

[AnnieA]

wow! some thread and very interesting. the OP did say in a later post (see above) that she had subsequently found he DID NOT break curfew.

Regardless, I feel like she should have gone back to the manager in person and spoken with the police officers or their superiors and gotten their version of what happened, all of this accompanied by her son. Would be a good lesson learned all the way around.

I, too, have a tendency to go off when I feel one of my grandchildren has been mishandled and I am always so glad when I have a chance to cool off and evaluate how is the best way to handle a situation......I find that usually, the kids haven't given me, exactly, the correct story. But, this incident does seem excessive from the story as given....

Good luck.

eta: Sometimes people do seem pretty arrogant in their replies. There is a courteous way of posting and not just "she asked for it by posting on this board...."

[Stratford, Ct. Resident]

Originally Posted by lumbollo

What about

"..... The worst thing they apparently did was break curfew--and for that much I reamed him out.."

are you having difficulty with in understanding?

Well, now that makes 2 people that have confirmed that you are indeed illiterate.

[lumbollo]

Originally Posted by Stratford, Ct. Resident

Well, now that makes 2 people that have confirmed that you are indeed illiterate.

The definition for illiterate is "an offensive term for somebody who lacks education and knowledge, especially somebody who cannot read or write." Obviously since we are communicating via reading and writing, then you have failed again to form a logical conclusion on what was posted.

[sheenie2000]

Originally Posted by lumbollo

What about

"..... The worst thing they apparently did was break curfew--and for that much I reamed him out.."

are you having difficulty with in understanding?

Yes, But AFTER that the OP came back and said "IT WAS 11 OCLOCK!FRIDAY NIGHT!!Come back at me for that one now....he didn't even BREAK THE CURFEW!!!!!! "


To me, I interpret the first post and her latter post this way: She didn't know what the curfew law was when she first posted, so she believed whoever told her that her kid broke the curfew law. But after upon reading up on what the curfew law was, she realized that her kid did NOT break curfew.

[zonababe]

How much time has the OP vested in being a parent, if she doesn't even know the local curfew laws?