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Old 09-14-2010, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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"Most of the city's stable neighborhoods are in south Charlotte"

Downturn pushes some Charlotte neighborhoods to the edge - CharlotteObserver.com (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/09/14/1691072/downturn-pushes-city-areas-to.html - broken link)
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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I live in Dilworth. It doesn't get much better.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Union County
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Nice find loves...

Here's the whole report for those who don't like the Observer's "analysis" (it shows beyond the map highlighted in the article):

http://charmeck.org/city/charlotte/nbs/communitycommerce/QOL/Documents/2010_Quality_Of_Life_Report.pdf (broken link)

I think not including foreclosures as a factor in QoL for an area was a major oversight. They should have included those.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Thanks, MikeyKid, for finding the whole report. Very interesting.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Union County
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I live in Dilworth. It doesn't get much better.
The entire report is fascinating... for instance on Dilworth:

Profile NSA City
Population 7,509 722,483
Youth Population 1,167 191,761
Number of Housing Units 4,696 312,457
Area (Acres) 1,197 191,537
Median Household Income $65,849 $52,148
Average House Value $487,307 $228,128
Number of Foreclosures 17 2,407
Unemployment Index Medium N/A

The average house value is nearly EIGHT times the median household income... That is just not sustainable long term.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:55 PM
 
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I looked at this report. It is a meaningless waste of tax money and an example of a city government that creates unneeded reports for the sole purpose of cheerleading and patting itself on the back. The reason it is a waste is they can't identify one city policy that has been put in place that changed anything and they don't offer solutions. Furthermore, this information can be found if one simply buys the demographic CD from the US Census Bureau. I'm sure that it will be on all the news programs tonight and presented as something great the city did.

Folks, this isn't effective government.
Give me a break. You're the one who constantly complains that the city has poor planning and insight. How are they going to know which areas need improvement if they don't look at all of the information available? Clearly you didn't even glance at the report, because the first page shows that the report was created by researchers at UNC, in cooperation with the city of Charlotte, CMPD, CMS, DSS, and the health department. It also clearly states that they used census data, as did the 200 other cities that have done quality of life studies.

This is what university researchers DO. They disseminate information from other sources to help create a picture of what is going on. Does it make sense to you now?

As for not offering solutions, the purpose of the report was to provide data, not solutions. Now that the city has the report, they can decide what actions should be taken based on the information provided.
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I live in Dilworth. It doesn't get much better.

I drive through Dilworth sometimes on lunch, as it's the closest to my work, and at least East is a really nice street.
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:10 PM
 
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Nice find loves...

Here's the whole report for those who don't like the Observer's "analysis" (it shows beyond the map highlighted in the article):

http://charmeck.org/city/charlotte/nbs/communitycommerce/QOL/Documents/2010_Quality_Of_Life_Report.pdf (broken link)

I think not including foreclosures as a factor in QoL for an area was a major oversight. They should have included those.
Why would they include foreclosures? The purpose of the study was to help the city planners gain information so they can improve areas which are in transition or declining. Foreclosure statistics aren't going to help with that.
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Union County
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Why would they include foreclosures? The purpose of the study was to help the city planners gain information so they can improve areas which are in transition or declining. Foreclosure statistics aren't going to help with that.
I disagree... foreclosures are the best leading indicator to future issues in a neighborhood. In fact, if I was going to buy in an area it's one of the first things I would look at. The other stuff in this report (i.e. crime) are present day and helpful for sure, no argument. I just feel that an area with a high QoL today, yet seeing high foreclosures is a neighborhood I would be concerned about for the future.
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:27 PM
 
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I disagree... foreclosures are the best leading indicator to future issues in a neighborhood. In fact, if I was going to buy in an area it's one of the first things I would look at. The other stuff in this report (i.e. crime) are present day and helpful for sure, no argument. I just feel that an area with a high QoL today, yet seeing high foreclosures is a neighborhood I would be concerned about for the future.
Oh - I see what you're saying. I'm looking at it from a city planner's perspective (I'm not a city planner, that's just the angle from which I read the info) and not a homebuyer. Well, they have 27 neighborhoods in decline now, as opposed to only 20 in 2008. I didn't look closely enough to see if those were neighborhoods that could have been more affected by foreclosures than stable neighborhoods.

I was thinking the data were simply going to help with infrastructure, transportation, social welfare and schools issues. I see your point though.
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