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Old 06-12-2012, 03:01 PM
 
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Is it me, or was somebody reading my post?

The Vue luxury residential tower in uptown sold at auction Tuesday morning for $102,750,000 to the group that had bought its debt earlier this year, possibly marking the end of an era for residential highrises in the Charlotte area, real estate professionals say.
VUE Charlotte sells at auction for $102 million | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper
I was a bit confused, it says they had already bought some of the debt for 100 million:

"The group paid around $100 million for the project’s $195 construction loan after the developer defaulted, it has been reported."[LEFT]
Read more here: VUE Charlotte sells at auction for $102 million | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper
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Then they paid another 102 million? How does that work? They could make some money if they can get them rented in time for the DNC, although it seems like they wouldn't have enough time.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:47 PM
 
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I am reading a lot of DNC stuff in here. Do you realize what they would have to do for the DNC? They would have to FURNISH each unit with everything! Don't think that's going to happen.

I hope it isn't another apartment complex. I am hoping they slash prices and sell the units.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:58 AM
 
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I was a bit confused, it says they had already bought some of the debt for 100 million:

"The group paid around $100 million for the project’s $195 construction loan after the developer defaulted, it has been reported."[LEFT]
Read more here: VUE Charlotte sells at auction for $102 million | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper
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Then they paid another 102 million? How does that work? They could make some money if they can get them rented in time for the DNC, although it seems like they wouldn't have enough time.
They bought the note, and then foreclosed on that note. They didn't actually come up with $100MM at the auction since they were the note holder. There was no exchange of money after the note purchase, just the acquisition of the deed.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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$102mm for 408 units (less the 25 units sold) works out to $270,000 per unit. Still seems a bit high to me, but I don't know how big they all are.
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:08 AM
 
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I don't think they paid $102MM for the note, I think they bought it at a discount and the foreclosure was recorded at the face value of the note, BUT I think they paid off the 1st Mortgage too, which wasn't cheap ($50MM?).

Edit: I think they are into it for a total of $100MM. I also felt that the average per unit was high, but when looking at the floor plans on their website many of the units were 2 and 3 bedrooms, and those high floors will still go for big bucks.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:20 AM
 
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Well here comes the newest Charlotte Luxury Apartment building
Mostly-empty Vue uptown condos turning into luxury apartments | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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I guess the people who put deposits on those units and gambled by holding out for a better deal, have lost everything.
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:26 AM
 
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I guess the people who put deposits on those units and gambled by holding out for a better deal, have lost everything.
Better than CLOSING.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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Did the people that close really lose everything though if they can afford it? I forget what the few that did close paid for their units, but will their mortgages be much higher if any than the rents there? I guess the people that bought them probably did not want to live with "renters" but it's better than living with no one. Will they still have to pay HOA fees? If they sell the units down the line, obviously there's not going to be a lot of demand for a condo inside an apartment building, but with only 6 units or so there's not much supply. And they should have at least one potential buyer--the company that bought the building.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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Sad for those that lost money - even sadder for those that actually followed thru on a purchase.

In 9-2010 (first post) I predicted correctly that these would be rentals
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