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Old 10-18-2010, 05:44 AM
 
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Dropping by for lunch? Tell CMS who you are - CharlotteObserver.com (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/10/17/1769791/dropping-by-for-lunch-tell-cms.html - broken link)


All employees and volunteers - CMS has more than 53,400 signed up - are checked against N.C. arrests every day. While I agree with a background check for Volunteers, there is NO reason to do one on any parent who wants to eat lunch with their child. I am sorry, but many people have a past and that should NOT prevent them from trying to be a good parent....this is wrong and discriminatory towards the child. You are telling this child their parent is not good enough? ANYONE can change and this just seems to me that CMS is trying to do the DA's job and punish them again! NOT FAIR and somehow I hope this is not legal! It is not CMS job to determine which parents are "fit" enough to eat with their child!

I hope someone will file a suit against CMS for this discriminatory!

We encourage parents to be interested in their child's schooling, then we do a criminal check on them before they can eat lunch with their child? How ridiculous can one get. I can understand having a parent sign in at the office so the school knows they are there, but a criminal check seems a bit over the top. The time to do these criminal checks costs money, too.
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Old 10-18-2010, 06:03 AM
 
Location: S. Charlotte
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They told me this too when we first started at our elementary school last year. As a volunteer for a classroom criminal checks are required (which is logical). To eat lunch with your own child seems a bit over the top. Shh: no one is checking on the lunch thing

By the way, there is no cost to criminal checks if you've live in NC for the past 7 years, and $33 if you have not, which according to the article is going down to $4 this year.
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Old 10-18-2010, 06:13 AM
 
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They told me this too when we first started at our elementary school last year. As a volunteer for a classroom criminal checks are required (which is logical). To eat lunch with your own child seems a bit over the top. Shh: no one is checking on the lunch thing

By the way, there is no cost to criminal checks if you've live in NC for the past 7 years, and $33 if you have not, which according to the article is going down to $4 this year.
And, seeing that MANY of us have not lived here for 7 years, one can only imagine how much CMS is squandering on background checks. Our elementary school moves the kids and the parents to the stage, where they are still visible- why is this not an option at all schools. Seems like a serious waste to me.
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Old 10-18-2010, 06:31 AM
 
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Who is deciding if your background check passes???
Is it ZERO TOLERANCE???

Jaywalker - Yes
DUI - maybe have lunch with your kid
Smoked Pot - No
Trespassing - Yes
Speeding tickets - Yes
Rape......

I think you get the idea
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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I think it depends on how "far" they are going w/the background check.....now I don't want chester the molester in my school, but petty violations would be taking it too far IMO....
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Old 10-18-2010, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, NC
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It's not too hard to see where this is going.

The Readers Digest version:
CMS puts a plan in place to look out for the kids. Some people are going to object to it. Since you can't please everyone, CMS will probably find that it's easier to ban parents from having lunch with their kids altogether.
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:01 AM
 
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personally, i think this is completely stupid.

they would do a lot better to concentrate on their teaching/coaching staff. Personally, we'd all be a lot better if they would make sure they had competant teachers in the classroom.

Geesh


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Dropping by for lunch? Tell CMS who you are - CharlotteObserver.com (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/10/17/1769791/dropping-by-for-lunch-tell-cms.html - broken link)


All employees and volunteers - CMS has more than 53,400 signed up - are checked against N.C. arrests every day. While I agree with a background check for Volunteers, there is NO reason to do one on any parent who wants to eat lunch with their child. I am sorry, but many people have a past and that should NOT prevent them from trying to be a good parent....this is wrong and discriminatory towards the child. You are telling this child their parent is not good enough? ANYONE can change and this just seems to me that CMS is trying to do the DA's job and punish them again! NOT FAIR and somehow I hope this is not legal! It is not CMS job to determine which parents are "fit" enough to eat with their child!

I hope someone will file a suit against CMS for this discriminatory!

We encourage parents to be interested in their child's schooling, then we do a criminal check on them before they can eat lunch with their child? How ridiculous can one get. I can understand having a parent sign in at the office so the school knows they are there, but a criminal check seems a bit over the top. The time to do these criminal checks costs money, too.
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:12 AM
 
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The thing that has always bothered me about local criminal checks is just that - they are local. We live right by the border with SC, but they are only checking NC records. Any teacher who wanted to drive drunk, buy drugs, or canvass for sex (or whatever) would just have to cross the border. When I worked in a school (not CMS) they did an NC criminal and background check on me. Not that there is anything on my record in any state, but I had quite literally JUST moved here. It was beyond ridiculous.
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Everyone will complain now, but if they didn't check and something happened to a child, you know there would be a big uproar about how the schools should have been doing background checks...
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:35 AM
 
Location: midwest transplant
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Everyone will complain now, but if they didn't check and something happened to a child, you know there would be a big uproar about how the schools should have been doing background checks...

Yep.
The first time a kid gets hurt or bothered, people will demand a law suit because CMS was negligent.
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