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Old 11-23-2010, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Asheville
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Anyone noticing the traffic circles popping up everywhere.

From a website about NJ:


This is a list of traffic circles in New Jersey. The U.S. state of New Jersey at one point had a total of 101 traffic circles, 44 of which were part of state roads. However, the number has shrunk as traffic circles have been phased out by the New Jersey Department of Transportation.[1][2] In the 1920s and 1930s, New Jersey felt that traffic circles were an efficient way for moving traffic through three or more intersecting roads.[1] Built in 1925, the first traffic circle in New Jersey was the Airport Circle in Pennsauken.[3] Many of these interchanges are rotaries in design, as opposed to the more successful modern roundabout.
As suburban and rural populations grew New Jersey's traffic circles became outdated. The increased number of drivers on the roads resulted in traffic circles being more likely to hinder traffic than help it. Increased number of vehicles and faster traffic speeds made traffic circles more dangerous and accidents common.[1] Many traffic circles became notorious for having frequent accidents and being confusing, especially for non-locals.[4] The confusion frequently is the result of ignorance of the elementary traffic law which governs right of way while using traffic circles, NJSA 39:4-90

If this is so, we need to get them out of office, NJ is a very poorly run state.

Not to mention the talk of toll roads going in """GARDEN PARKWAY""", sounds like the corrupted "Garden State Parkway" in NJ.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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hate to tell you this, but, traffic circles..or roundabouts...are a fixture in Europe and have been for far many years than they have been in New Jersey....
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:30 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Anyone noticing the traffic circles popping up everywhere.

From a website about NJ:


This is a list of traffic circles in New Jersey. The U.S. state of New Jersey at one point had a total of 101 traffic circles, 44 of which were part of state roads. However, the number has shrunk as traffic circles have been phased out by the New Jersey Department of Transportation.[1][2] In the 1920s and 1930s, New Jersey felt that traffic circles were an efficient way for moving traffic through three or more intersecting roads.[1] Built in 1925, the first traffic circle in New Jersey was the Airport Circle in Pennsauken.[3] Many of these interchanges are rotaries in design, as opposed to the more successful modern roundabout.
As suburban and rural populations grew New Jersey's traffic circles became outdated. The increased number of drivers on the roads resulted in traffic circles being more likely to hinder traffic than help it. Increased number of vehicles and faster traffic speeds made traffic circles more dangerous and accidents common.[1] Many traffic circles became notorious for having frequent accidents and being confusing, especially for non-locals.[4] The confusion frequently is the result of ignorance of the elementary traffic law which governs right of way while using traffic circles, NJSA 39:4-90

If this is so, we need to get them out of office, NJ is a very poorly run state.

Not to mention the talk of toll roads going in """GARDEN PARKWAY""", sounds like the corrupted "Garden State Parkway" in NJ.
LOL, I learned to drive on Ellisburg Circle, (once the most notorious circle in the state) Racetrack Circle, & Airport Circle. What I miss are the jughandles, although 74 in Shelby has a thing going on that's very similar.

Learning to drive on the circles came in handy when I took my NC driving test because there was a question about driving on circles & at that time there was nothing in the driving manual about circlesl.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Rock Hill
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I have noticed them. There is one in Rock Hill near the Lowes, then oneon the road thats near the Sears outlet that takes you back into Fort Mill, and one near the Whitewater Center. I was never a fan of traffic circles, but, growing up in New England, encountered them a lot.
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Traffic circles and roads are the least of my worries... how about we fix the school system first.
And why are you picking on NJ?
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Roundabouts just make you want to accelerate into curves...
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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I don't mind roundabouts (which are different than circles). From what I've heard, studies shown they are much more safer than circles...

Anyone have any data history on this?
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:56 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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I don't mind roundabouts (which are different than circles). From what I've heard, studies shown they are much more safer than circles...

Anyone have any data history on this?
Jack, considering some of the stuff that I've seen happen on circles, I'm a firm believer that safety is relative. When faced with a traffic circle for the 1st time, I have seen the resullts of the creativity, or lack there of, of American drivers.
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Old 11-23-2010, 11:15 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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New England , New York , and New Jersey have always had Roundabouts , Traffic Circles or Rotaries. NJ has 46 , NY has 30-60 , New England has over 300+ , some cities have 5 of them. NJ has 4 Roundabout Interchanges , NY has 6 and New England has 20+ , Roundabout Interchanges are like a gift form Heaven. No long waits , nice smooth merge most of the time , easier to use....going to the beach gliding around the circle , is so peacefully. My state is upgrading 11 circles to full Roundabout Interchanges. If you look back at Northeastern Rail and Road history you'll see they planned it quite well , it was very advanced for its time. Unfortnatly most of that original design has been changed to something less then that.
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Old 11-23-2010, 11:48 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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New England , New York , and New Jersey have always had Roundabouts , Traffic Circles or Rotaries. NJ has 46 , NY has 30-60 , New England has over 300+ , some cities have 5 of them. NJ has 4 Roundabout Interchanges , NY has 6 and New England has 20+ , Roundabout Interchanges are like a gift form Heaven. No long waits , nice smooth merge most of the time , easier to use....going to the beach gliding around the circle , is so peacefully. My state is upgrading 11 circles to full Roundabout Interchanges. If you look back at Northeastern Rail and Road history you'll see they planned it quite well , it was very advanced for its time. Unfortnatly most of that original design has been changed to something less then that.
Hey Nexis! Please check & see if you can find a picture of Ellisburg Circle. It would be appropriate for this thread, but I can't find a picture of it. I know that there used to be several online, but they seem to be gone.
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