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Old 10-15-2012, 03:54 PM
 
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Only all the worldly sinners have not forgiven. Over and over I have read so much hate from people who never even put in money. The real christians have forgiven and Jim was found not guilty in a second trial. Most of all the devil details people were given came from two snakes,Swaggert and Falwell who brought this minisitry down but even they have been forgiven by everyone including me.Jim made a mistake and so did Tammy, but they both repented and thats all God asks of anyone, repent and your sins will be forgiven. And as for hate-filled sinners if they would read the word they would have a better understanding of how christianity works.
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:16 PM
 
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Are you a christian? The reason I ask only sinners will not forgive of things that are not even any of their business. God says repent and you will be forgiven, JIm Bakker has repented and God has totally restored him.
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:46 PM
 
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I was here before this time and can tell you these thieves ran rampant around here.
I even drove my boat up to their home after it burned down to a crisp in Tega Cay.
How can such a beautiful place burn to a crisp is beyond me. Oh the poor dog's A/C
and heated little house outside was such a loss it made me cry.

Lavish lifestyle is an understatement it was an abuse of money.

They started this endeavor on Park Road South.

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Old 10-15-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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Only all the worldly sinners have not forgiven. Over and over I have read so much hate from people who never even put in money. The real christians have forgiven and Jim was found not guilty in a second trial. Most of all the devil details people were given came from two snakes,Swaggert and Falwell who brought this minisitry down but even they have been forgiven by everyone including me.Jim made a mistake and so did Tammy, but they both repented and thats all God asks of anyone, repent and your sins will be forgiven. And as for hate-filled sinners if they would read the word they would have a better understanding of how christianity works.
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Are you a christian? The reason I ask only sinners will not forgive of things that are not even any of their business. God says repent and you will be forgiven, JIm Bakker has repented and God has totally restored him.
They didn't swindle god. They swindled actual people out of many millions of dollars. They abused their position grotesquely. They repented, just like murderers, rapists, child molesters, etc. But here in the real world their victims suffered. Some probably still do after giving their savings to these crooks.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:59 PM
 
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I have lived through the entire long sad story.The leaders fell and so did the ministry but not before the thieves and there were many took their bounty....Yes even a murderer on death row can be truly forgiven and made into a decent human being before he is put to death...Rare? maybe so but very true. Christians by nature love to forgive, it makes them sick when they don't PTL is over ..Brother JIM may be 100% right where he is suppose to be with GOD but I doubt running another "PTL" is something he will be able to do again. IN fact I will bet on it.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Mauldin/Greenville
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Despite certain financial issues, Heritage USA was a very nice resort and PTL was a first rate television production. I'm sorry that the business, civic, and religious leaders of Charlotte allowed it to go under, as it was a top tourist attraction in the region. A great boost to the local economy. I always wished that Paul and Jan Crouch had taken it over as an East coast operation for TBN. Would have been a better fit than Jerry Falwell. But despite the scandal, PTL was much more than just Jim and Tammy. There was a true ministry there.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Mauldin/Greenville
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The ministry aspects of PTL should have remained a tax exempt, non profit operation. But the hotel and theme park components of the resort should have operated as a for profit, taxable business. And perhaps subcontracted to somebody like Marriott or Gaylord who know how to operate hotels and theme parks as a successful business venture. And they could have even sold commercial time for advertising during some of the programming on the satellite network. Then they would not have always had to be begging for money all the time. I know ministrys always ask for offerings and donations, but parts of PTL should have existed as a more conventional business model.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Passed by yesterday and noticed they plowed the big castle down. Channel 9 was there filming but I'm not sure if it made the news. I guess they're making room for more vinyl subdivisions.
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