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Old 03-10-2011, 04:43 AM
 
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Your right, it is 15% commuting. However, I don't know if that is 15% commuting for work or other ammenities. It is only a matter of time before the counties you mentioned are included into the MSA. The only county that won't ever is Catawba. It is the principal county in its metro. However, I forsee Hickory and Charlotte merging to form a single CSA.
Actually the new definition, as referred to above, raises this to 25% for an outlying county to be included in the CBSA, as well as removing the local option and other non-quantitative criteria. The new MSAs, don't use commuting anymore but instead count employment interchange. For 2010 the Charlotte MSA is unchanged.

IMO this means that Charlotte's MSA could lose counties instead of gaining them. I am still predicting that we won't see Lancaster added anytime soon.

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Old 03-10-2011, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Steele Creek, Charlotte, NC
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There are two types of Core Based Statistical Areas (CBSAs): Metropolitan Areas, which contain at least one core area (urbanized area), with a population of 50,000 or more, and Micropolitan Statistical Areas, which contain at least one core area (urban cluster) with a population of 1,000 or more.

The county or counties containing the core are central counties. Outlying counties qualify if they have a commuting rate of at least 25% to the central counties. For example, Anson County qualifies for Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord MSA because of a high commuting rate to Union County, which is a central county containing part of the Charlotte urbanized area.

Adjacent areas merge if the counties in the core of one area qualify as outlying counties to the core of another area. This is how Gaston County (Gastonia urbanized area), Cabarrus County (Concord urbanized area), and York County (Rock Hill urbanized area).

After metropolitan and micropolitan areas are delineated, adjacent areas can combine into Combined Statistical Areas of their employment interchange (the total persons commuting between the two areas as a percentage of the total number of workers in the smaller area) is at least 15%. Thus the Charlotte-Gastonia-Salisbury Combined Statistical Area includes the micropolitan statistical areas of Statesville-Mooresville (Iredell County), Salisbury (Rowan County), Albemarle (Stanly County), Lancaster (Lancaster County), Chester (Chester County), Shelby (Cleveland County), and Lincolnton (Lincoln County).

Current delineations were made in 2003, after an analysis of 2000 census results. Delineations will be updated in 2013 based on 2010 census results (population counts) and American Community Survey results (commuting rates).

Maps of current CBSAs are available here: http://www.census.gov/geo/www/maps/m...wall_1108.html

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Old 03-10-2011, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Crown Town
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Here's a new link with updated metro populations that's pretty easy to navigate.

Link: Metro area populations (as of March 7, 2011) | Business First
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Old 03-10-2011, 12:42 PM
 
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I can't find the previous posting where someone said that the only reason one moves here is for jobs. That is absolutely incorrect. I have met many people that have moved here to retire. Many have children or other relatives in the area, and many are from the Northeast and prefer the area to Florida. This area attracts for many other reasons than jobs.
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Old 03-10-2011, 01:55 PM
 
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I can't find the previous posting where someone said that the only reason one moves here is for jobs. That is absolutely incorrect. I have met many people that have moved here to retire. Many have children or other relatives in the area, and many are from the Northeast and prefer the area to Florida. This area attracts for many other reasons than jobs.
Charlotte is a melting pot, plain and simple! Jobs may be the main factor, but people are moving to Charlotte for other reasons besides just jobs, and this happens to every major American city that has experienced rapid growth! Think New York City of the early 20th Century when a lot of immigrants from Europe migrated to the United States, a lot of them came to make a better life for themselves, either by getting a job or doing something else! The point is, what's happening in Charlotte right now is nothing new, it has happened to every growing American city at some point in time, and once there is a new frontier somewhere else, they will be going thru the same growing pains that Charlotte is experiencing right now!
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:34 PM
 
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There are two types of Core Based Statistical Areas (CBSAs): Metropolitan Areas, which contain at least one core area (urbanized area), with a population of 50,000 or more, and Micropolitan Statistical Areas, which contain at least one core area (urban cluster) with a population of 1,000 or more.

The county or counties containing the core are central counties. Outlying counties qualify if they have a commuting rate of at least 25% to the central counties. For example, Anson County qualifies for Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord MSA because of a high commuting rate to Union County, which is a central county containing part of the Charlotte urbanized area.

Adjacent areas merge if the counties in the core of one area qualify as outlying counties to the core of another area. This is how Gaston County (Gastonia urbanized area), Cabarrus County (Concord urbanized area), and York County (Rock Hill urbanized area).

After metropolitan and micropolitan areas are delineated, adjacent areas can combine into Combined Statistical Areas of their employment interchange (the total persons commuting between the two areas as a percentage of the total number of workers in the smaller area) is at least 15%. Thus the Charlotte-Gastonia-Salisbury Combined Statistical Area includes the micropolitan statistical areas of Statesville-Mooresville (Iredell County), Salisbury (Rowan County), Albemarle (Stanly County), Lancaster (Lancaster County), Chester (Chester County), Shelby (Cleveland County), and Lincolnton (Lincoln County).

Current delineations were made in 2003, after an analysis of 2000 census results. Delineations will be updated in 2013 based on 2010 census results (population counts) and American Community Survey results (commuting rates).

Maps of current CBSAs are available here: Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas Wall Maps - December 2008
I think the CBSA definition will be updated slightly in 2013. The UA definition has been updated already. I'm not sure if that is a precursor to what the new MSA/CSA definitions wil be, but we'll see.
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Steele Creek, Charlotte, NC
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Urban areas (urbanized areas and urban clusters) currently are being delineated based on 2010 census counts and have not yet been released. Metropolitan and micropolitan areas qualify based on the urban areas. Thee is always a massive redelineation of core based statistical areas (metropolitan and micropolitan areas) after each census, as there will be again in 2013.

In my previous post, "Micropolitan Statistical Areas, which contain at least one core area (urban cluster) with a population of 1,000 or more" should have been "10,000 or more."
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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Urban areas (urbanized areas and urban clusters) currently are being delineated based on 2010 census counts and have not yet been released. Metropolitan and micropolitan areas qualify based on the urban areas. Thee is always a massive redelineation of core based statistical areas (metropolitan and micropolitan areas) after each census, as there will be again in 2013.

In my previous post, "Micropolitan Statistical Areas, which contain at least one core area (urban cluster) with a population of 1,000 or more" should have been "10,000 or more."
Got ya. We'll see how it works out.
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Old 03-14-2011, 08:31 PM
 
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Thanks to everyone for expressing their thoughts!
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:38 AM
 
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I am anxious to see the new city and county population estimates.
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