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Old 04-20-2011, 10:26 AM
 
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You would have them do there job how? Most people see an officer they reduce speed. Even when they do not have blue lights on. This slows traffic down to a safer speed and reduces the chance for an accident. So that action is keeping the public safe.

I hope that the next ticket you receive the officers says, "You know why I pulled you over." You, "No really sure." He says, "Because I need to get three more speeders today and I win the pool this week for the most ticketed and the mayor is going to give me a trip to the coast for being a great revenue producer."
Do you even have a clue what I was talking about? I wasn't even talking about the police. I was talking about the politicians who give them their marching orders from town hall. If you had read the entire thread you could not have missed that point... I don't think.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Ayrsley
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Actually my point is that I actually just want them to be honest about it and stop trying to sell us on "keeping the public safe" in those cases when it's clearly about revenue.
Sounds fair. And maybe those that want to complain "its just about revenue" can be honest and just admit that their real complaint is that they are mad because they got caught breaking a traffic law.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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Sounds fair. And maybe those that want to complain "its just about revenue" can be honest and just admit that their real complaint is that they are mad because they got caught breaking a traffic law.
Fair enough as well, however, I sometimes see the enforcement as another form of road taxes, albeit a "sin" tax of sorts.

Hey, here's a novel idea. If you want to go no more than 15 MPH over the speed limit on certain roads (those deemed safe enough to handle that, i.e., I-77, etc.), perhaps one could purchase a $150 annual pass or such. That's roughly the price of a ticket without the spike in insurance. Caught doing more than your alloted 15? Steep fine. Caught doing the 15 without the permit? Regular ticket and four points.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:53 PM
 
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Did a Google search for this exact thing. Found this thread and had to register and add my two cents.

Yes, there is some kind of ticket campaign going on. I was pulled twice in four days for the same thing - my registration expired on Friday. Never been pulled before in my 20 years of driving and then all of a sudden twice for having a registration a couple days past due.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:15 AM
 
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Glad you mentioned the red lights. In Charlotte, a few years back, people were regularly ticketed by red light cameras, making a good bit of money for the city. The courts, however, ruled that the city was improperly keeping a large portion of the revenue generated by the fines, saying instead that a large part of the funds should be going to local schools. Once the city realized that they were not going to make very much money on the cameras, the program was suspended indefinitely.

Does that sound like enforcement for the sake of safety or generation of revenue?
You might find this interesting - Atlanta banned the use of radar guns for police on Jan 1 of this year. Speeding tickets decreased drastically and the county has already lost $400,000 this year, compared to last, because of the lost ticket revenue. They're currently considering reversing the ban to get more ticket fines and replenish the budget.



4/15/2011 - http://www.ajc.com/news/gwinnett/spe...om-911753.html

Thousands of Gwinnett drivers have steered clear of speeding tickets since the state revoked permission for county and municipal police to use laser and radar speed detection devices.

But that lost revenue could put a dent the county's budget.

Since the ban took effect Jan. 1, the revenue from Recorder's Court sent to the county's general fund has dipped by $400,000, from $2.5 million in the first quarter of 2010 to $2.1 million during the first quarter of 2011. That means Gwinnett County is on track to lose $1.6 million by the end of the year if the pattern holds.

Money in the county's general fund pays for a wide variety of items, including police salaries, court operations, elections and fire protection.

Records show many more speeders are avoiding the blue light special. Only 1,572 speeding tickets were issued during the first three months of this year, compared with 5,503 during the same period last year.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Huntersville
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Actually my point is that I actually just want them to be honest about it and stop trying to sell us on "keeping the public safe" in those cases when it's clearly about revenue.
Seriously? If there was no crime we wouldn't need police... It is a source of revenue, which pays for police. A catch-22?
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:47 PM
 
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Fair enough as well, however, I sometimes see the enforcement as another form of road taxes, albeit a "sin" tax of sorts.

Hey, here's a novel idea. If you want to go no more than 15 MPH over the speed limit on certain roads (those deemed safe enough to handle that, i.e., I-77, etc.), perhaps one could purchase a $150 annual pass or such. That's roughly the price of a ticket without the spike in insurance. Caught doing more than your alloted 15? Steep fine. Caught doing the 15 without the permit? Regular ticket and four points.
Only 15 over? For that amount of money I want triple digits at the very least.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Well, maybe if people slowed down a few MPH, there would be less revenue to collect.
Dream on! That revenue is absolutely essential, no 2 ways about it!

Get on Speedtrap.org, sometime, and see what's going on in some major cities in this country, desperate for additional revenue. Yes, in a couple major Texas cities, a ticket for driving 2MPH over the speed limit!

I know of no one who can drive any given day in this country, or any other country, without going over the speed limit at any given time. It's an absolute impossibility, even for a off-duty police officer!

And given the high gas prices today, people's budgets strained to the max, you would think there'd be some soft-hearted police officers out there with a little compassion. Not so! It never occurs to them that, having to pay that speeding fine, their children will go hungry that week!

I'm so glad I live here in Las Vegas, where a fair amout of our police force are here to protect the tourists on the Strip, and yes, there are police officers in this city whose job is to wile away an evening at an off-Strip, Strip club, there to make sure the Stripper doesn't take too much off.

Fine and dandy! Love it! Keeps them out of my neighborhood, keeps them from patrolling the streets. Thank you, I'll fend for myself!

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Old 04-22-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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Seriously? If there was no crime we wouldn't need police... It is a source of revenue, which pays for police. A catch-22?
There will always be crime. Because if there isn't enough revenue coming in, there will just be a new law "to protect us", and on and on...
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