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Old 05-29-2011, 07:58 PM
 
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Do you happen to have a link to where to find these data? I'm an addict for statistics and would love to look up stuff for other cities.

Charlotte city, North Carolina - QT-P22. Place of Birth and Residence in 1995:**2000

The 2010 data isn't out, and I think they stopped asking about the where you were born question in 2010, but I could be wrong.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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We would see less crime. we would see less motor vehicle wrecks, We would see less single parent homes. We would see less problems associated with undocumented ethnic groups. We would see less big business paving over our historic buildings. We would see much better schools. We would see less tax increases. We would see less traffic congestion. We would see far less unemployed .......
Not necessarily. Cities like Little Rock, Memphis, Birmingham, etc are all very southern and have all of those problems FAR worse than Charlotte except for maybe traffic congestion. Little Rock is known for demolishing historic buildings for surface parking.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:53 PM
 
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Charlotte city, North Carolina - QT-P22. Place of Birth and Residence in 1995:**2000

The 2010 data isn't out, and I think they stopped asking about the where you were born question in 2010, but I could be wrong.

Thanks. It's interesting to note that some of the adjacent "suburbs" like Huntersville have fewer Southerners (63.5%), and these areas experienced ~100% growth between 2000 and 2010, so those stats. are probably further tilted toward non-natives.
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Old 05-30-2011, 02:15 AM
 
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Really?? Have you been to South Carolina lately? Or West Virginia?




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We would see less crime. we would see less motor vehicle wrecks, We would see less single parent homes. We would see less problems associated with undocumented ethnic groups. We would see less big business paving over our historic buildings. We would see much better schools. We would see less tax increases. We would see less traffic congestion. We would see far less unemployed .......
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Union County
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We would see less crime. we would see less motor vehicle wrecks, We would see less single parent homes. We would see less problems associated with undocumented ethnic groups. We would see less big business paving over our historic buildings. We would see much better schools. We would see less tax increases. We would see less traffic congestion. We would see far less unemployed .......
It's kind of sad that so many natives believe this - you see it in so many rants about transplants. Like poverty and the crime it begets is something that was brought here and didn't exist "back in the day". The more time goes by, the more memories become fuzzy about "the good ole days".

Frankly I think this borders on the same tired old Charlotte "South" thread hashed over and over... It's be much easier to get to the chase and ask what would Charlotte look like without the Banks and Yankees? Like if it stuck with textiles or some other "Southern" industry.
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Old 05-30-2011, 10:04 AM
 
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It's kind of sad that so many natives believe this - you see it in so many rants about transplants. Like poverty and the crime it begets is something that was brought here and didn't exist "back in the day".....
And you base this on what? Were you living here "back in the day"? And, BTW, poverty doesn't beget crime. At one time, almost everyone in the South was poor yet crime was non-existent. Crime comes from the lack of good morals and the lack of a proper upbringing that teaches respect for others.
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Old 05-30-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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And you base this on what? Were you living here "back in the day"? And, BTW, poverty doesn't beget crime. At one time, almost everyone in the South was poor yet crime was non-existent. Crime comes from the lack of good morals and the lack of a proper upbringing that teaches respect for others.
Really? You think that?

Hate to crush your delusion, but the town drunk lives near me. He'll steal anything that isn't bolted down (Although he's afraid that If I catch him, I'll call Kings Mountain PD, because I told him that I would.) He's a native & has the accent to prove it. No, I don't live in the bad part of town, but there's a badly managed apartment in the neighborhood.)
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Old 05-30-2011, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Union County
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And you base this on what? Were you living here "back in the day"? And, BTW, poverty doesn't beget crime. At one time, almost everyone in the South was poor yet crime was non-existent. Crime comes from the lack of good morals and the lack of a proper upbringing that teaches respect for others.
I was referring to the history of the area and the reminiscing that everyone does - we almost always look back on the "old days" with fondness. Even more as we get older. Like how you relate "almost everyone in the South was poor and yet crime was non-existent"... BTW, I brought up crime only because the person I responded to listed that first - poverty and crime are most certainly connected. Maybe not so in the 1800s, but we're not talking about those times. Or are we?
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Old 05-30-2011, 10:58 AM
 
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And you base this on what? Were you living here "back in the day"? And, BTW, poverty doesn't beget crime. At one time, almost everyone in the South was poor yet crime was non-existent. Crime comes from the lack of good morals and the lack of a proper upbringing that teaches respect for others.
Crime has ALWAYS existed. And if you look at the data, there is a lot less crime now than in the 1960s-1980s. Every crime nationwide now gets blown out of proportion by 24-hour news and internet message boards, so people

The South is and has always been a more violent/crime-ridden place than the rest of the nation. State Rankings--Statistical Abstract of the United States--Violent Crime Rate. Southern states have more crime, Western states have the least.

Charlotte was a really rough city around the turn of the century - and really rough in the 60s and 70s. In fact, it had the second-highest murder rate of any US city in the late 1960s. Prostitutes and pimps (Southerners all) used to roam West Trade Street at all hours.
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Old 05-30-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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This sounds more like, "What if Charlotte was mostly white and asian?". Last time I checked, southern blacks (and all the associated problems) are a large part of the aforementioned problems you list. And even there, let's remember that it was white, southern mayors and other politicians in Charlotte and Raleigh that allowed sprawl to occur to the extent it has.

To the extent that gentrification and tax revenue has occurred thanks to an influx of transplants, that has actually helped some of the characteristics you list (i.e. the normal transplant moving to Charlotte is on the upper-half of the bell curve of education, wealth, family status, etc. if you look at the Census data).
Please dont inject racial undertones into my thread.State your own answer to the op question and dont attack my answer..thanks
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