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Originally Posted by bs13690
Why do they have graduation for 4th grade? Is it really that special that it needs a graduation ceremony? Maybe I am just a grumpy old man.
I agree with your sentiments totally.
As a baby boomer, I have had occasion to work with some of the products of the "all the public recognition & congradulations that we can cram into the day" system. It's sad. Many were just fine, but a frightening number felt a need to share their disappointment, frustration, & demoralization that they were not congratulated & awarded for doing mundane tasks at work.
If the parents want to celebrate every fart that Junior lets, that's fine & their business, but the current system is not teaching the kids self-motivation. It's not preparing them for the real world.
In fact, even high school graduation is pretty meaningless, because if you stop there, you are very likely to be a total loser for the rest of your life.
50 years ago a high school education might have meant something. Today it is nothing more than the end of the year before college. That is all it is.
Maybe PhD's deserve some recognition, but certainly not 4th graders and probably not high schoolers.
The true reward for getting an education should be a good job and knowing you made the right decisions and you can live comfortably. You don't need a party every time a child wipes his butt.
Haven't you seen Billy Madison??
"Billy passed the first gradee, ohh what a glorious dayyyyyyy."
I'm so glad to see I'm not the only one out there who thinks what a terrible idea these are. In the unfortunate event that I have children who are subjected to this, I will tell them that I will be there for their high school/college graduation, otherwise, I have to work.
4th graders are 7 or 8 years old... Let them have a little party celebrating academic achievements... These 4th graders are them same people who get a kick out of looking for eggs on easter and believe Santa Clause...
For my Nephew, I sure would hold him a cool little football party or something.Or at least take him to a Panthers or Checkers Game. It's a nice way to get little kids to think about college at an early age and let them set a goal of going to college. College gets more and more important each and every year that passes and anything that gets kids minds that college and graduating is a good thing is great for kids.
It's just teaching kids that graduation is a good thing. Kinda like when you tell a kid "Good job, Dude" when they use the bathroom by themselves and such. Maybe I'm just too cool of an Uncle and want my Nephews to have an awesome childhood. Maybe I'd have a different opinion if I had sons of my own.
(And my nephews - for the record - are really tough fellas and far from being "little junior who gets rewarded when he farts" with good manners because their mom, grandmother and myself wears the belt out on them constantly.)
The only graduation there should be is the graduation when you get your diploma. Anything else is just rewarding people for minor accomplishments. When i have kids there will be hell to pay for any schools that try to pull this crap.
Careful what you promise. The one promise I can make is, when you have kids you'll break plenty of those promises! !
Word sandwiches suck !
Careful what you promise. The one promise I can make is, when you have kids you'll break plenty of those promises! !
Word sandwiches suck !
One of my best friends and I were always making comments about what behaviors we wouldn't allow in our kids when we had them. Now he has two daughters and it's as if those conversations never happened. Anytime I'm around, which is increasingly seldom, he says things like "it's just easier to let them have this little xyz thing or attitude". I used to respond by saying "Step up! Be a parent!" but that's done nothing but alienate me from him. So now I see him very little.
Still...30 years ago, our school district had a formal graduation ceremony at the end of 6th grade (elementary), 9th grade (it was Junior High then), and high school.
Since they've changed the format to Middle School, the grades have shifted for graduations.
One of my best friends and I were always making comments about what behaviors we wouldn't allow in our kids when we had them. Now he has two daughters and it's as if those conversations never happened. Anytime I'm around, which is increasingly seldom, he says things like "it's just easier to let them have this little xyz thing or attitude". I used to respond by saying "Step up! Be a parent!" but that's done nothing but alienate me from him. So now I see him very little.
Lol, I know it's easy to say that now. I promise I'll work hard to stand by my words! My sister in law takes the "it's just easier' route, and my wife and I agree that if parenting was so easy, then we wouldn't have so many horrible parents in this world. We do get to practice on her niece and nephew when they visit, and I think we do an OK job.
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