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Old 06-10-2011, 08:04 PM
 
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But I HIGHLY doubt anyone was arrested for wearing their hat backwards

If they were arrested it was for refusing to leave private property, or maybe for failure to follow instructions of law enforcement (meaning they wouldn't leave!).

The thread title is misleading and inflammatory.
Allow me to fan the flames a bit more and yell RACIST! (the center not you)

You are correct about refusing to leave. CMPD wasn't even running security. The cops were called after the guy refused to do what regular security told him. And it's just for the Pavilion area (I think).

Man Arrested At EpiCentre After Violating Dress Code - News Story - WSOC Charlotte

But it's probably discrimination because the guy was black and the sign was written against his "type", and he didn't feel he had to obey security when they were enforcing said posted rules.

You are correct, the thread title is misleading. He was not arrested for the way he was wearing his hat.
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:08 PM
 
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It's not "technically" - he was on private property and refused to comply with a posted dress code. When he refused to leave he was arrested for second degree trespassing.

This is not rocket science folks.

Or are you saying property owners should lose the right to decide what goes on on their own property??
I think a business should be able make any rules it chooses, as long as those rules are available to anyone to see. If a business makes decisions that costs them business or employees, that's their right.

The government has become far too intrusive. But that's probably a topic for another thread.
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:09 PM
 
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Allow me to fan the flames a bit more and yell RACIST! (the center not you)

You are correct about refusing to leave. CMPD wasn't even running security. The cops were called after the guy refused to do what regular security told him. And it's just for the Pavilion area (I think).

Man Arrested At EpiCentre After Violating Dress Code - News Story - WSOC Charlotte

But it's probably discrimination because the guy was black and the sign was written against his "type", and he didn't feel he had to obey security when they were enforcing said posted rules.

You are correct, the thread title is misleading. He was not arrested for the way he was wearing his hat.

Thank you

I personally don't view management of the Epicentre as racist however. They are trying to maintain an atmosphere which will garner them the most paying customers - something any business is smart to do.
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I think a business should be able make any rules it chooses, as long as those rules are available to anyone to see. If a business makes decisions that costs them business or employees, that's their right.

The government has become far too intrusive. But that's probably a topic for another thread.
Can a business ban yarmulkes or crucifixes?
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:18 PM
 
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Can a business ban yarmulkes or crucifixes?
Property owners have the right to decide who can be on their property, so yes they could.

I as a paying customer who doesn't agree with that could feel free to spend my money elsewhere.

Again, this isn't rocket science.
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:25 PM
 
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But I HIGHLY doubt anyone was arrested for wearing their hat backwards

If they were arrested it was for refusing to leave private property, or maybe for failure to follow instructions of law enforcement (meaning they wouldn't leave!).

The thread title is misleading and inflammatory.



Eggggsactly!


Their property, their rules. If people do not like the rules, go elsewhere. Very simple. Vote with your wallet.

Some banks don't allow people with hats or sunglasses. When I was a customer of Citibank about ten years ago, they implemented the no hat or sunglass rule. I simply closed my account and opened a new account with another bank.
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, NC
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The OP must have been trying to bait people into a debate since the thread title is a flat-out misrepresentation of the truth.

I'm glad the authorities aren't backing down from this clown who broke the law due to his self-serving attitude.

From what I hear, his big BOYCOTT of the Epicenter has 100 or so followers as of noon today. If he can double or triple that amount, and those people share his philosophy of the law, that can be a wonderful thing for the Epicenter!!!
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:29 PM
 
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Can a business ban yarmulkes or crucifixes?

Of coarse. It's all part of free enterprise. I could insist that you dress like a Ballerina in order to enter my business establishment. Good for business? Of coarse not, but it's my place of business.
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:32 PM
 
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Property owners have the right to decide who can be on their property, so yes they could.

I as a paying customer who doesn't agree with that could feel free to spend my money elsewhere.

Again, this isn't rocket science.
At this point I don't think they can. But they should be able to. Included should also be facial hair, veils, or any other item of dress related to religion that the business does not feel is appropriate. Or blue shorts, white socks, brown shoes, or any other seemingly silly thing the business does not want.
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:36 PM
 
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The OP must have been trying to bait people into a debate since the thread title is a flat-out misrepresentation of the truth.

I'm glad the authorities aren't backing down from this clown who broke the law due to his self-serving attitude.

From what I hear, his big BOYCOTT of the Epicenter has 100 or so followers as of noon today. If he can double or triple that amount, and those people share his philosophy of the law, that can be a wonderful thing for the Epicenter!!!


Precisely.

The creator and it's followers of the unorganized boycott can pound sand.

I do believe I will have to make a few extra trips to the Epicenter to show my support(hatless).

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