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Old 08-29-2007, 04:11 AM
 
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There are two kinds of associations from what I have heard, but I could be wrong. This is my first year working in NC. I don't see that they do all that much though. They claim they are the ones who help raise our pay and they are working toward getting NC teachers up to the average in the nation (we are not there yet) and working to getting NC teachers protected with lawyer fees if necessary and benefits. But I really don't know how much power they have.


The benefits really aren't very good. My husband's were better so we kept his.


Dawn

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Wow, I had no idea that this question would cause such a stir.

I am a teacher in Nevada (Right to Work State), and looking into making a move back east. My district does not have a union, but has an association that the teachers pay to be a member of if they choose. The association helps protect our prep period, duty free lunch time, our health benefits, etc.

I was just curious if Charlotte had something to protect teachers union or association. It has been very interesting reading both sides. Your city is a wonderful city, and I am just looking into what it has to offer me as an educator.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:35 PM
 
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The benefits really aren't very good. My husband's were better so we kept his.


Dawn
That is what I am most concerned about. We can deal with a lower salary since the cost of housing is less expensive, but not if it does not include insurance costs. My husband and I are both teachers so we would not be able to use the others insurance if one of us had a different job.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:36 PM
 
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I must agree with RalieghCE. It's the unions that are making it impossible to live in cities like NY. Generally, their wages are ridiculous and their workers are some of the laziest people that I've met. No offense to any union workers out there who are actually contributing an honest 8 hour day to their employer
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:50 PM
 
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Very good posts on this subject. My view from working in a huge corp(Non union) The unions have become the protector of the lazy and take away the will to work hard to advance yourself within a corp. The unions are out for the unions, Look at the teamsters they depleted the employees pension plans and now have to rely on the companies that had funded their employees plans as well as try to get new companies because they are almost broke. They pay political thuggs to pass laws to enslave middle class workers. They use trickery and lies to get union cards signed. The fact is they very rarely get a better benefit for the employee then they already had and once in the door you cant vote them out. NC needs no more union they are bad mojo.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:24 PM
 
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If you are both working for the district you will be ok I think. You can get the basic paid for with your contract for YOU only. To add a family (spouse and children) is about $580/month.

So, if it is just you and your husband, you would both be covered on the basic plan, OR you can pay an additional $40/mo. each for the premium plan. It is worth the $40/mo. as it covers more.

If you add only kids it is around $250/mo. additional.

Am I making sense? If you have more questions, ask.

Retirement....you pay in 6% and they match 3%.

Dawn

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That is what I am most concerned about. We can deal with a lower salary since the cost of housing is less expensive, but not if it does not include insurance costs. My husband and I are both teachers so we would not be able to use the others insurance if one of us had a different job.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:59 PM
 
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That is what I am most concerned about. We can deal with a lower salary since the cost of housing is less expensive, but not if it does not include insurance costs. My husband and I are both teachers so we would not be able to use the others insurance if one of us had a different job.
You can go pretty much anywhere in the state and have a job. (here's my plug) and if you have a Master's, you can teach in a community college! We need Math and English/Humanities and Science teachers.
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:17 PM
 
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But can you get a full time job with benefits? Also, what is the pay? Is it hourly or salaried with retirement and health?

I just looked at the website and it lists 0 faculty/teaching positions. There was a career counseling position, but it would be a 13,000 pay cut compared to staying in the school district.

Dawn

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You can go pretty much anywhere in the state and have a job. (here's my plug) and if you have a Master's, you can teach in a community college! We need Math and English/Humanities and Science teachers.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:21 PM
 
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If you are both working for the district you will be ok I think. You can get the basic paid for with your contract for YOU only. To add a family (spouse and children) is about $580/month.

So, if it is just you and your husband, you would both be covered on the basic plan, OR you can pay an additional $40/mo. each for the premium plan. It is worth the $40/mo. as it covers more.

If you add only kids it is around $250/mo. additional.

Am I making sense? If you have more questions, ask.

Retirement....you pay in 6% and they match 3%.

Dawn
That makes sense, thanks for breaking it down for me. I think I am going to get nationally certified too, so I can get that exrta money if we do move to Charlotte. We are also looking into Austin, TX, but the property tax and homeowners insurance are kind of scary. We shall see. I do love Charlotte though because of the beautiful blue sky, and it is a lot closer to home.

Last edited by lava5000; 08-30-2007 at 08:22 PM.. Reason: typo
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:05 AM
 
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But can you get a full time job with benefits? Also, what is the pay? Is it hourly or salaried with retirement and health?

I just looked at the website and it lists 0 faculty/teaching positions. There was a career counseling position, but it would be a 13,000 pay cut compared to staying in the school district.

Dawn
Depends which cc. There are 57 colleges other than CPCC, 4-5 within Charlotte Metro, but I don't know the ins and outs for elementary / secondary teachers with your out-of-state experience. But as I said, you make more than me with my 10 years of service and 2 Master's AND clinical work experience (30+ ) I think you'd be a hoot to work with!
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:07 PM
 
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Hello all. Lots of great debating going on here about this subject. I would like to put in my two cents worth. Let me preface this reply by saying it late and I am tired.

First, let's remember this was a post about teacher unions. Folks that are not teachers cannot really comprehend what it is like. You know the old adage "walk a mile in a man's shoes." Just because you were a part of a machine worker's union in NJ and got screwed, doesn't mean it would be like that for teachers in NC. Yes some unions are bad. Especially the ones that are run by selfish, corrupt, opportunists that look out for only themselves. Have you ever heard of a teacher that had those characteristcs (rhetorical by the way)? A union would soooooo protect teachers in NC from being taken advantage of. If teachers are happy, then they will be better teachers. Yes teachers should be able to be strong and look past all the exploitation, but not every teacher is like the ones in the movies. It is extremely difficlut to do that all the time. Yes, I am a teacher (I'm sure you could of figured that out). What I (and the rest of my colleges) are asked to do, have to do, and deal with on a daily basis is, for lack of a better word, unacceptable. We eat with our students, we have busy duty, our team planning time is interuppted more than half of the time, we get on average 2 to 3 hours a week for our own instructional planning time, we have parents coming in blaming us because their child is failing, parents that swear at us I(sometimes in front of the class), the list goes on and I have a hand cramp already. People who dropped out of HS and work at McDonalds get an hour break to stay and eat or leave. Teachers get about 25 minutes for lunch, and by the time they drop off and pick up the students from the tables and heat up their lunch, it works out to be 10 to 15 minutes. I know someone will post an awesome and intelligent response like, "if you don't like it then quit or move." It is easier said then done. Also, it is kind of a dismissing and ignorant response to people who devote their lives and their own free time at home, to try and make a difference in this scary world. I am extrememly confident, that if every non-teacher were to go to their child's school and do what we do for a week (after you got rid of your migrane) you would hug a teacher, recognize that they are being treated unfairly as professionals and support a union or something like it, to benefit and respect teachers.

Sorry for the tirade, but have seen this too many times. Thanks for you time and your ears to vent.
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