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Old 11-29-2011, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Crown Town
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I just knew they would select that new building going up out in Ballantyne. I figured with them trying to cut costs that would be more cost effective for them. They must be getting a really good deal to go into the Nascar Plaza building. I wonder if the R&D facility will be at the reasearch campus in Kannapolis. That would be good for that development.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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1. Companies go where the transportation and cost of operation is more suitable. The company is leaving Cinci because of better transportation, cost of operations, and location of Charlotte.

2. When the Charlotte Hornets left Charlotte, I was happy.

3. Spending $22 million to bring a company that will provide jobs and boost the economy is a wise choice. Remember that employees pay state and city tax.

4. I am very sad that you will not be booking a vacation to Charlotte.

5. Since the company is so awful as you mention, you should rejoice and be happy that it wasn't Proctor and Gambel.
Spending $22 million is a tad much for 350 jobs, no? I'd be interested to see what the average Charlotte resident thinks of that. This board (for every city) is filled mostly with pro-city and pro-development homers. But I'd like to see the opinion of the general Charlotte/Mecklenburg County population on this corporate handout.

Again, is everything so utopian there that there was nothing else to drop $22 mil on in the middle of an economic recession?

I do agree that Chiquita's transportation needs are a factor, but they should have moved to Miami if they want ease of access to Central/South America. I suspect they may eventually end up there. Remember: Cincinnati wasn't their original city either. They bounce around.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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What's there to explain? I don't like the way cities operate as far as poaching companies from other cities. What would you think if it happened to Charlotte? What was your reaction when the Hornets left for New Orleans? I certainly know, as my friend lived in Charlotte at the time.

This is corporate welfare and nothing else. Companies go to whatever city/state offers them the best package, most money, etc. Charlotte gave Chiquita $22 million to leave Cincinnati and go there. It's dirty and it will come back to haunt, believe me. Chiquita is hardly the model corporate citizen, as I'm sure you'll soon discover. And are you telling me there aren't better things that $22 million could be spent on in Charlotte? It seems to me that quite a few people there would be upset that their tax dollars are being spent in this way.

No, I'm not happy with Charlotte right now. What do you expect, me to book a vacation to Charlotte next week?
First of all, read what I had to say about this mess before it was official:
Charlotte could go Banana's

Also, Charlotte has changed quite a bit since the days of the Hornets. I can promise you that the city you saw back then is quite different now. As for the Hornets leaving, no one was angry with the great city of New Orleans. We were angry with Hornets' owner George Shinn.

IMO, the only thing "good" about the Chiquita news is that maybe (just maybe) other companies (MUCH better ones) will take notice and come here too. FWIW, Cincy's Fifth-Third bank did buy out Charlotte's First Charter Bank not too long ago.
Fifth Third buys First Charter for $1.1B - USATODAY.com

Then again, Charlotte started this mess by buying Cincy's Cinergy.
CINERGY AND DUKE ENERGY AGREE TO MERGE; CREATES ENERGY COMPANY WITH $36 BILLION MARKET CAPITALIZATION - Duke Energy

^^^It seems that there is a "Battle of the Queen Cities" going on here. Even on a global level, the two Queen Cities of the US are ranked side by side.
GaWC - The World According to GaWC 2010
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Crown Town
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Spending $22 million is a tad much to pay for 350 jobs. I'd be interested to see what the average Charlotte resident thinks of that. This board (for every city) is filled mostly with pro-city homers. But I'd like to see the opinion of the general Charlotte/Mecklenburg County population on this corporate handout.

Again, is everything so utopian there that there was nothing else to drop $22 mil on in the middle of an economic recession?

I do agree that Chiquita's transportation needs are a factor, but they should have moved to Miami if they want ease of access to Central/South America. I suspect they may eventually end up there. Remember: Cincinnati wasn't their original city either. They bounce around.
Uhhh, I do belive the State of Ohio and Cincy were offering incentives also
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:35 PM
 
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Uhhh, I do belive the State of Ohio and Cincy were offering incentives also
Also, Charlotte had to offer more $$$ due to the fact that the company had moving expenses associated with coming here. Staying in Ohio would have been a "zero" expense.
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I just knew they would select that new building going up out in Ballantyne. I figured with them trying to cut costs that would be more cost effective for them. They must be getting a really good deal to go into the Nascar Plaza building. I wonder if the R&D facility will be at the reasearch campus in Kannapolis. That would be good for that development.
I honestly forgot about that. Dole's former CEO built that place.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati(Silverton)
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CQB Stock | Chiquita Brands International Stock Hits New 52-Week Low (CQB) - TheStreet
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:02 PM
 
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Uhhh, I do belive the State of Ohio and Cincy were offering incentives also
Charlotte and North Carolina offered $22 million; Ohio offered between $6 million and $7 million. Frankly, I'm offended by both offers.
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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First of all, read what I had to say about this mess before it was official:
Charlotte could go Banana's

Also, Charlotte has changed quite a bit since the days of the Hornets. I can promise you that the city you saw back then is quite different now. As for the Hornets leaving, no one was angry with the great city of New Orleans. We were angry with Hornets' owner George Shinn.

IMO, the only thing "good" about the Chiquita news is that maybe (just maybe) other companies (MUCH better ones) will take notice and come here too. FWIW, Cincy's Fifth-Third bank did buy out Charlotte's First Charter Bank not too long ago.
Fifth Third buys First Charter for $1.1B - USATODAY.com

Then again, Charlotte started this mess by buying Cincy's Cinergy.
CINERGY AND DUKE ENERGY AGREE TO MERGE; CREATES ENERGY COMPANY WITH $36 BILLION MARKET CAPITALIZATION - Duke Energy

^^^It seems that there is a "Battle of the Queen Cities" going on here. Even on a global level, the two Queen Cities of the US are ranked side by side.
GaWC - The World According to GaWC 2010
So you want Fifth Third too? Why don't you take all of our companies. Take our zoo, symphony and the Reds too.
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Crown Town
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If they were doing well, I doubt they would be moving, no?
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:21 PM
 
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So you want Fifth Third too? Why don't you take all of our companies. Take our zoo, symphony and the Reds too.
That's not what I meant. I just simply want other companies to do business here. They don't have to move their HQs to Charlotte; just bring some jobs here.
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