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Old 02-15-2012, 02:06 PM
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Location: Gaston County
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:10 PM
 
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Anyone ever hear about personal responsibility?
So in your world everyone owns their own business?

Just curious, in your world who fixes the sewers?
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Pixley
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The savings is in less HR staff and less benefits. But they are at the same time paying a premium for flexibilty and also a finder's fee for bringing in foreign workers and handling the immigration issues. Nobody knows which direction the economy will go next, so flexibility is important. I don't make this s*** up - it's what my company specializes in. This is also a way for some large companies to subvert a hiring freeze.
I see, thanks for the insight. I know that many companies are outsourcing "standard functions" like HR and IT, but I did not know that offshoring in HR was as prominent. I'd have concerns with that info being accessed by others outside the country.
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Concord, NC
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So in your world everyone owns their own business? Just curious, in your world who fixes the sewers?
No. In my world, nobody is guaranteed a job or a minimum salary like some people believe.

The sewers are fixed by the entity that owns the sewers. That entity charges usage fee's to pay for the fixes.
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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This might come as a shock for many here, but biggest complain that US companies have, it is the lack of available skilled work force, especially with the threat of baby boomers retirement.
Apparently there is an immediate demand for 600,000 skilled manufacturing positions.
FEATURE-US teens learn robotics, windmills as factories lack skilled workers | Reuters

The key word is "skilled".
In one of the posts I read the other day someone was mentioning how his stepfather (working on the floor) was telling the CEO of an aviation company that problem is that there were only 50 people on the floor and 150 in the office. This is ridiculous, this type of company definitely needs more engineers and scientists than labourers.
I have a feeling that same ignorance towards what a company really needs to function, it is the main reason that triggers (on this post) this outburst of hate towards corporations.

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Old 02-15-2012, 02:37 PM
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Location: Gaston County
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Anyone ever hear about personal responsibility?
What does personal responsibility have to do with this?

How many people have had to take a major loss of income? How many people have had to retrain themselves? Millions.

Somewhere, someone is going to have to pick up the slack during the process - be it society, the family, or the church.

In the 1990's, when blue collar jobs started leaving, everyone said: 'Screw 'Em'.

Yet now we see white collar IT jobs, accounting, engineering and development, being moved overseas.

This phenomena never really hit me, until the mid to late 90's, when I worked for a major bank - and saw first hand, the carnage that job outsourcing wrought. Society is always impacted in one way or another.
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Near the water
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No. In my world, nobody is guaranteed a job or a minimum salary like some people believe.

The sewers are fixed by the entity that owns the sewers. That entity charges usage fee's to pay for the fixes.
So, if there are no jobs, no "guarantees" in life then how do you propose that this nation survive? Or are you one of those that is ok with the whole "haves & have nots" theory?
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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This might come as a shock for many here, but biggest complain that US companies have, it is the lack of available skilled work force, especially with the threat of baby boomers retirement.
Apparently there is an immediate demand for 600,000 skilled manufacturing positions.
FEATURE-US teens learn robotics, windmills as factories lack skilled workers | Reuters

The key word is "skilled".
In one of the posts I read the other day someone was mentioning how his stepfather (working on the floor) was telling the CEO of an aviation company that problem is that there were only 50 people on the floor and 150 in the office. This is ridiculous, this typo of company definitely needs more engineers and scientists than labourers.
I have a feeling that same ignorance towards what a company really needs to function, it is the main reason that triggers (on this post) this outburst of hate towards corporations.
Understood. Yet, God forbid we invest more in educating and building up our own skilled work force. That would be... socialism! gasp!
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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Let's see...corporate puppet talking points (warning: contradictions ahead!):
1) not enough skilled workers - must import workers from asia
2) not enough unskilled workers - must import workers from latin america to do the jobs that americans are not willing to do
3) our banks cannot compete in the global arena, so we must make them bigger
4) job creators trickle down their fairy dust on all of us peons, do not take them for granted

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Old 02-15-2012, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Pixley
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Let's see...corporate puppet talking points (warning: contradictions ahead!):
1) not enough skilled workers - must import workers from asia
2) not enough unskilled workers - must import workers from latin america to do the jobs that americans are not willing to do
3) our banks cannot compete in the global arena, so we must make them bigger
4) job creators trickle down their fairy dust on all of us peons, do not take them for granted
These are particularly curious as 1) companies are sitting on huge cash reserves and 2) they claim they can’t find competent workers because of the skills gap. Many companies expect you to “know the job” before you get it.

Now, I’m not advocating a “tax holiday” to repatriate all the money sitting offshore, but maybe they could use some of that to train people for a tax break? Additionally, people need to take care of their own career management, but let’s face it; many of the jobs that are going unfilled are ones that need a high amount of training, specific sometimes to one or just a few companies. Many don’t have the resources to train on their own for some of these jobs. Can we meet in the middle?
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