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Old 04-07-2012, 12:14 PM
 
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Not really. Smaller cities often have higher crime rates. You need to compare like-to-like. Most of the places on your list were mid-sized cities. This list includes ALL categories of crime from the FBI data but the site doesn't even say what year it was from.

Forbes list uses only violent crime from the 2008 FBI report. Violent crime is more what I think of when someone asks if an area is safe. Murder, manslaughter, rape, assault, and forcible robbery.

"To determine our list, we used violent crime statistics from the FBI's latest uniform crime report, issued in 2008. The violent crime category is composed of four offenses: murder and non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault. We evaluated U.S. metropolitan statistical areas--geographic entities defined by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget for use by federal agencies in collecting, tabulating and publishing federal statistics--with more than 500,000 residents"

Forbes is more credible or at least has done better defining their terms.
Either way, Forbes' list only selects from a pool of about 30 cities. Considering Charlotte (at 14th) is also probably a middle of the pack sized city it makes perfect sense that Charlotte would be ranked in the middle of the pack. Forbes list tells me nothing about safety relative to the average American experience.

Think about the argument you're taking... Smaller cities are more dangerous and therefore aren't an accurate comparison?!? Poppycock. If you throw in enough constraints you can make an argument for ANY city to be the "most dangerous".
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:54 PM
 
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Either way, Forbes' list only selects from a pool of about 30 cities. Considering Charlotte (at 14th) is also probably a middle of the pack sized city it makes perfect sense that Charlotte would be ranked in the middle of the pack. Forbes list tells me nothing about safety relative to the average American experience.

Think about the argument you're taking... Smaller cities are more dangerous and therefore aren't an accurate comparison?!? Poppycock. If you throw in enough constraints you can make an argument for ANY city to be the "most dangerous".
There are 102 MSAs with over 500,000 population according to the 2000 Census. So 14 out of 102 makes us pretty dangerous as far as violent crime goes.

Different factors affect crime differently in smaller cities than larger cities. It's best to compare like to like.
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:51 PM
 
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There are 102 MSAs with over 500,000 population according to the 2000 Census. So 14 out of 102 makes us pretty dangerous as far as violent crime goes.

Different factors affect crime differently in smaller cities than larger cities. It's best to compare like to like.
They use MSA data? So they are including all those dangerous little cities around Charlotte that in your last argument aren't comparable because of their size?

I thought the topic was is Charlotte safe? I thought my list wasn't admissible because it analyzed small cities too?

I give up.
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