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Old 09-25-2011, 02:53 PM
 
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Are "gentlemen's agreements" not to compete illegal? Antitrust and all that.
The Publix threads are littered with claims of this gentleman's agreement between Publix & Teeter. (If it ain't on paper, it doesn't exist.)

One of my sources has told me that Bob Ingle knew someone from Publix & a non-compete agreement is not involved. Ingles & Publix play well together in Greenville & Spartanburg.

I asked on the Greenville Spartanburg board & found out that Teeter has gone up against Publix & retreated back to Charlotte. A question about Publix

The sad state of Food Lion out here was the cause of the much advertised price decreases in Food Lion (Ingles is still cheaper.) a while back. When Publix shows up, expect the same from Harris Teeter.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:47 PM
 
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I'm not so sure Ingles is any cheaper than Food Lion, but yes, their selection is much better.

I know you're a big fan of Ingles, but IMO Publix probably "plays nice" with Ingles because they're not really worried about them (yet at least). Publix is the #1 grocery retailer in the Southeast, maybe the country. Ingles is a localized chain of about 200 stores, with maybe half of them actually in the same markets where Publix is. Although referring to the actual stores, Publix and Ingles are more similar than Ingles and Food Lion.
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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I'm not so sure Ingles is any cheaper than Food Lion, but yes, their selection is much better.

I know you're a big fan of Ingles, but IMO Publix probably "plays nice" with Ingles because they're not really worried about them (yet at least). Publix is the #1 grocery retailer in the Southeast, maybe the country. Ingles is a localized chain of about 200 stores, with maybe half of them actually in the same markets where Publix is. Although referring to the actual stores, Publix and Ingles are more similar than Ingles and Food Lion.
I never darken the doors of the local Food Lions, but a neighbor asked me to take him (He's elderly & disabled.) a while back. I walked around & price checked (normal prices for identical items) The difference was significant. This was after the "We're lowering prices" campaign.

I shop between Ingles & Aldi (with a stop at Trader Joe's when I'm in Charlotte) & there are certain items where Ingles will actually compete with Aldi on sale prices. The Ingles buyers must drive hard bargains, but the items need to sell a certain amount or they can't keep them, since it is a small chain. B&M Baked Beans bit the dust, but Herr's is holding it's own. Have you tried the pizza flavored potato chips?
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:36 PM
 
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The Ingles buyers must drive hard bargains, but the items need to sell a certain amount or they can't keep them, since it is a small chain.
Their buyers aren't particularly tough (and that's not a bad thing).
Ingles used to be notoriously slow on the uptake when it came to accepting new items from food manufacturers and getting them onto their shelves. It always took a few more weeks than their competition.
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:22 PM
 
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Their buyers aren't particularly tough (and that's not a bad thing).
Ingles used to be notoriously slow on the uptake when it came to accepting new items from food manufacturers and getting them onto their shelves. It always took a few more weeks than their competition.
Thanks! I assumed that they drive a hard bargain because, occasionally I've seen a sale at Food Lion for more than Ingles' everyday price.

I think that it will be a big relief, financially, for people in Charlotte when Publix opens for business. If Ingles is in there too, it will just add to the merriment.
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:37 PM
 
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Thanks! I assumed that they drive a hard bargain because, occasionally I've seen a sale at Food Lion for more than Ingles' everyday price.
You've gotta remember that the prices you see are a collaboration between food manufacturers and the chain and it's all about maximizing revenue.

There are several strategies in-play and they are ever-changing, so sometimes this means keeping everyday prices higher and then discounting aggressively, other times it means running fewer overall promotions. It's highly formulated according to price-elasticities, consumer insights, etc - but the manufacturers have a great deal of input in the process, because without them the chains will be reluctant to reduce the prevailing margin.
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:48 PM
 
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Thanks! I assumed that they drive a hard bargain because, occasionally I've seen a sale at Food Lion for more than Ingles' everyday price.

I think that it will be a big relief, financially, for people in Charlotte when Publix opens for business. If Ingles is in there too, it will just add to the merriment.
Am I missing something? Are Publix prices 30-40% lower than Harris Teeter with the same or better quality? I've only shopped at a few Publix with little data to compare.

I've heard some folk talk about customer service, while nice to have, I could care less about customer service in a grocery store. But cheaper prices, that's whole different thing.
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Old 09-25-2011, 07:57 PM
 
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I never darken the doors of the local Food Lions, but a neighbor asked me to take him (He's elderly & disabled.) a while back. I walked around & price checked (normal prices for identical items) The difference was significant. This was after the "We're lowering prices" campaign.

I shop between Ingles & Aldi (with a stop at Trader Joe's when I'm in Charlotte) & there are certain items where Ingles will actually compete with Aldi on sale prices. The Ingles buyers must drive hard bargains, but the items need to sell a certain amount or they can't keep them, since it is a small chain. B&M Baked Beans bit the dust, but Herr's is holding it's own. Have you tried the pizza flavored potato chips?
I have not, but I have noticed it is a little harder to find Herr's around here...I haven't looked very hard, but my GF particularly likes a type of popcorn they make.

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Am I missing something? Are Publix prices 30-40% lower than Harris Teeter with the same or better quality? I've only shopped at a few Publix with little data to compare.

I've heard some folk talk about customer service, while nice to have, I could care less about customer service in a grocery store. But cheaper prices, that's whole different thing.
Probably not 30-40%, but definitely less. Although it always seems like some stores have lower prices on some items and then higher prices on others. One thing that caught my eye was my GF also likes this weird type of romano cheese (she likes some random things) that we paid $11.99 for at Harris Teeter. It was $6.99 at Publix.
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:21 PM
 
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Am I missing something? Are Publix prices 30-40% lower than Harris Teeter with the same or better quality? I've only shopped at a few Publix with little data to compare.

I've heard some folk talk about customer service, while nice to have, I could care less about customer service in a grocery store. But cheaper prices, that's whole different thing.
I don't know where you're getting 30 - 40% less. Publix carries items that are not readily available in Charlotte. If people can get those items without making the current drive to Spartanburg & come out paying somewhat less, this will hurt Teeter. All of the articles about the impending arrival of Publix say that Teeter is the intended target. I've used the Ingles vs Food Lion interaction as an example, because while Publix is aimed for Charlotte, so is Ingles.
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:43 PM
 
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I have not, but I have noticed it is a little harder to find Herr's around here...I haven't looked very hard, but my GF particularly likes a type of popcorn they make.



Probably not 30-40%, but definitely less. Although it always seems like some stores have lower prices on some items and then higher prices on others. One thing that caught my eye was my GF also likes this weird type of romano cheese (she likes some random things) that we paid $11.99 for at Harris Teeter. It was $6.99 at Publix.
Herrs was not readily available here 3 years ago, when I moved here. It's a bit of a stretch for a Publix thread, so dig up one of the old "where can I get this" grocery threads & I'll fill you in. Just search the forum for "grocery".

Yeah, if the cheese is imported, that becomes a luxury here, unless you can get it at Trader Joe's. I'm hoping that Publix carries frying peppers. Right now Compare Foods is the only source of them (labeled as Cubanelle) & they are pricey. I grow them in the summer & give the excess away. I'm converting natives to peppers & onions.
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