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Old 08-14-2012, 07:56 PM
 
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You are so presumptuous. We can all play a role. If you realized the amount of cold, hard cash I've donated to this very movement, you wouldn't be so quick to castigate. and yes, money is sorely needed to establish the ties and programs and influence to get this thing off the ground. I'll probably continue to donate to it here long after I'm gone because I believe in it. I've also put in countless hours in my non-work time putting my actual sweat and elbow grease into endeavors such as these, and even find ways to parlay my professional experience to help out. I've done the same wherever I've lived - I don't kick back and veg on weekends, I'm out doing stuff for the community. It would also behoove you to actually know what an uphill climb and lack of reception these Harvest Moon people have had to deal with here in this Charlotte climate compared to their farm-to-table friends over in the Triangle because people just aren't receptive to it in these parts.
And in the Triangle, they couldn't keep the CIAA tournament (Raleigh's largest annual party-like event) and Progress Energy (Raleigh's only Fortune 500 company) from moving to Charlotte. In Charleston they couldn't keep Johnson and Wales University from moving to Charlotte. In Augusta, they couldn't keep Husqvarna and Electrolux from moving to Charlotte. My point is that different communities have different strengths and weaknesses. You (and folks like you) tend to blow Charlotte's weaknesses way out of proportion just to get some twisted point across. So let's be honest here, are YOU the music director who is only earning $72k annually while your peers earn 4 times as much?

 
Old 08-14-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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And in the Triangle, they couldn't keep the CIAA tournament (and Progress Energy (Raleigh's only Fortune 500 company) from moving to Charlotte. In Charleston they couldn't keep Johnson and Wales University from moving to Charlotte. In Augusta, they couldn't keep Husqvarna and Electrolux from moving to Charlotte. My point is that different communities have different strengths and weaknesses. You (and folks like you) tend to blow Charlotte's weaknesses way out of proportion just to get some twisted point across. So let's be honest here, are YOU the music director who is only earning $72k annually while your peers earn 4 times as much?
I don't think Augusta has much going for it so that's not a useful comparison. Charleston couldn't keep Johnson & Wales because of land expense - Charlotte governmental officials threw a lot of financial incentives at J&W and cheap campus space for them to move here. It seems the only "investment" any companies get around here is from government entities as opposed to free-market sources, and that's not a good sign. Yet despite J&W being here, that still hasn't been enough to keep the talent around that the school is producing. Again, Charlotte planted such great seeds for an institution having a positive impact on the atmospherics of this place, but the people of Charlotte itself at the end of the day haven't been receptive enough to its offerings to take advantage of it. You can incent all you want at the forefront, but the bottom line is going to be driven by supply and demand.

Your point about business climate makes sense insofar as it's not happening in Raleigh/Durham either. North Carolina is generally weak in this regard for some of the reasons I've already described. So in that sense, it's not specific to Charlotte but is more of a regional weakness. Notice that despite by drumming up the Triangle in certain respects, I don't live there, and there's no reason in the world I wouldn't given my comments and expressed preferences, but there's just not enough going in there for my particular profession.

You keep trying to pin this on a personal beef I have with the place (either professionally or socially), but that's just not the case. I'm paid well here, my job is secure, and I don't have a personal vendetta against any one company or business. I'm just calling the shots as I've experienced this place in general terms.
 
Old 08-14-2012, 08:09 PM
 
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You keep trying to pin this on a personal beef I have with the place
Oh no my friend, you've done that with this thread. Take a look at your title:

Why I've personally come to dislike Charlotte a lot
 
Old 08-14-2012, 08:11 PM
 
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Oh no my friend, you've done that with this thread. Take a look at your title:

Why I've personally come to dislike Charlotte a lot
Poor choice of words. I meant in the sense that you've tried to pin it on a specific beef (as in, a beef with my employer, or a beef with a particular individual) as opposed to a more general personal categorical dislike of certain things.
 
Old 08-14-2012, 08:12 PM
 
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Charlotte is a good ole boy city?


How can we be so full of ourselves thinking we are so great and laugh loud so others can hear yet be a city of good ole boys?


That is complete opposite! Gastonia isn't even a good ole boy city.... Where at in Charlotte, Blue, do you live?

It doesn't sound like uptown, SouthEnd, Dilworth, Plaza, Wilmore, Belmont, Cherry, Ballantyne, SouthPark, Myers Park, University, NoDa, etc. There is nothing "good ole boy" about these places.....


Edit: I know it's personal opinion, but still... A good old boy city?
 
Old 08-14-2012, 08:16 PM
 
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Charlotte is a good ole boy city?


How can we be so full of ourselves thinking we are so great and laugh loud so others can hear yet be a city of good ole boys?


That is complete opposite! Gastonia isn't even a good ole boy city.... Where at in Charlotte, Blue, do you live?

It doesn't sound like uptown, SouthEnd, Dilworth, Plaza, Wilmore, Belmont, Cherry, Ballantyne, SouthPark, Myers Park, University, NoDa, etc. There is nothing "good ole boy" about these places.....
Charlotte is "good ol' boy" at the 1% level, the ones calling the shots. You might get the patina of otherwise amongst the lower-level busy bee minions, but we're still a city whose private sector is run by a small and exclusive "old guard" club. I was told as much by those very people when I moved here. In all fairness, that's not to say it isn't the case in the Mid-Atlantic or Northeast Corridor, I wouldn't know since I don't have a lot of experience in those places. But I know that elsewhere, that's not the case. In college I hung out with a lot of guys and gals eating 50 cent ramen out of a vending machine who are now CEOs of top companies in California.
 
Old 08-14-2012, 08:17 PM
 
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You are right - as are others - who have stated that there is everything a person might want - within several hours drive.

THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT.

It is NOT HERE. IT IS SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I am not trying to be disrespectful of anyone's opinions, but the whole thing about . . . Charlotte is a great spot to land so you can get somewhere else . . . might as well be the city's motto, when it comes to many aspects of what some folks consider "quality of life" issues.

No one is gonna perish b/c there is no robust jazz community here. Or great theatre and dance ensemble. Or Opera. Or zoo. Or casino. Maybe they prefer NASCAR. Maybe they have never been in a really amazing uptown complex and so they think Epicentre is wonderful. And of course, they can drive to the beach. Or the mountains. They can haul their boat to LKN.

There is entertainment here, fer shur. You just have to work at it. I did that my whole life . . . til I moved and I was finally able to experience what it is like to have excellent venues, museums, theatres, entertainment complexes, huge variety of cuisines, etc within a few miles of my house. . . . Not every city the size of Charlotte, even if it IS NOT THE CAPITOL OF THE STATE, is so lacking in what most folks consider the basics for what is advertised and marketed as "a world class city."

Once you have lived somewhere that has those things available, IN A CITY APPROX THE SAME SIZE AND COST OF LIVING as Charlotte . . . you notice. You notice and you think . . . damn. People think the infrastructure here is acceptable? The mess with the highways? That is acceptable? We have a really nice airport and a cute little rail system, but it doesn't even hook up with the airport - what a wasted opportunity that was. And we knock down coliseums . . . all that money down the drain . . . and the ongoing controversy over a minor league baseball team . . . and our basketball team, which once was an exciting addition to this region . . . I won't even go there. And our schools? Please don't tell me they are across the board what we want for all our children.

And then when someone points out that Charlotte is "a super location to get to other places" . . . people are quick to defend and justify and give all these reasons (valid or not) as to WHY the newcomer is a malcontent for having the audacity to want those things IN THE CITY WHERE THEY LIVE.
Lots of action in this thread today, but in case I missed it...

Where is this magical city that is a similar size and similar cost of living to Charlotte that has jazz, theatre, dance, opera, zoo, casino, an amazing uptown complex, a beach, mountains, museums, entertainment complexes, a huge variety of cuisines, a great highway system, good airport and public transportation, and good schools across the board all within the city limits?

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Old 08-14-2012, 08:25 PM
 
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Lots of action in this thread today, but in case I missed it...

Where is this magical city that is a similar size and similar cost of living to Charlotte that has jazz, theatre, dance, opera, zoo, casino, an amazing uptown complex, a beach, mountains, museums, entertainment complexes, a huge variety of cuisines, a great highway system, good airport and public transportation, and good schools across the board all within the city limits?
I don't know of a city that has everything you listed. I didn't provide the list of items you created in the above post.
 
Old 08-14-2012, 08:28 PM
 
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Yes you did...
 
Old 08-14-2012, 08:31 PM
 
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Charlotte is "good ol' boy" at the 1% level, the ones calling the shots.
Planet Earth is "good ol' boy" at the 1% level, the ones calling the shots. That's why Occupy Wall Street turned into Occupy ALL streets worldwide.
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